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hey
need a car and wanted a prius
so looked around for a FW way of getting it
ended up on this website www.ezsalvage.com it is a company of the elite motor located in Bronx, NY
I spoke with them on the phone , searched the internet and couldn't find any real info on them, nothing negative

they also have some cars with clear title not everything is salvage. It said it is a return from leasing company or something like that.

saw an auction ending last night and I ended up bidding on
the problem is these people work with money order or wire transfer only

after winning I have to pay 10% and they will present my bid to the insurance company that has the car and if they accept it the deal will go through and i have to pay the rest.

they do accept the 10% in paypal form as well but they claim that if i dont win they will keep 10% of that money if sent via paypal. but if it is money order they refund the whole thing.

after winning the car you have to give them the full amount + 55$ (their fee) +transportation fee and they will arrange transportation to your door.

I have till tomorrow to make a decision as to which way to pay the 10%
either via paypal or I will take a money order in person to them.

any helpful idea would be appreciated..



So you bid on the chance to bid on a car? That right there sounds sleazy to begin with. I'm guessing the cars are really good deals and you know what they say about things that sound too good...

So in theory, they could collect these 10% "bids" and just keep telling bidders, "Sorry, your bid was rejected" aaaaaaaaaand PROFIT!

Edit:

Looking at one of the vehicle pages, I see this:

e-zsalvage said: PLEASE REMEMBER: This is NOT an instant purchase. If you hold a highest eligible offer on our Insurance Company item, WE WILL PURSUE THE ACQUISITION OF THIS VEHICLE FROM INSURANCE AUCTION UPON RECEIVING YOUR DEPOSIT, which is usually due next business day. If we acquire the vehicle, your purchase is finalized. If we cannot acquire your vehicle, you can leave your deposit for your next offer or request a refund.

So they say you can get your money back or use it for another vehicle purchase. I don't know. There really isn't alot of info about them online after a quick glance. I'd proceed with caution.

2nd Edit:

BBB report (no complaints in 3 years): http://www.bbb.org/new-york-city/business-reviews/auto-dealers-used-cars/elite-motors-inc-in-bronx-ny-99313/


It sounds like they're acting as a dealer proxy. Many of the salvage auctions are "dealer only".
There is no reason why they can't refund your paypal money... There is a "Refund" option that negates the fees.
Without references - entirely too risky...


dcg9381 said: It sounds like they're acting as a dealer proxy. Many of the salvage auctions are "dealer only".
There is no reason why they can't refund your paypal money... There is a "Refund" option that negates the fees.
Without references - entirely too risky...

Yes, they carry no inventory, they pursue to bid at auction after receiving your bid, if the auction goes too high they don't win. They charge you a 10% fee for their time to bid at auction (seems like a lot since they just sit at a computer). They probably use a database from something like this Text

You would be better off finding someone who is a registered dealer who you could accompany to an auction (the big ones are in NJ) and check out the cars before bidding. He would charge you a fee for his time (even though he would be going to the auction anyway).


Copart is a national salvage auction company that has lots all over and is open to the public (kind of). You just to have a business name (dba registered with the state) to bid on their cars. There is a membership fee of about $300 for the year but they have local lots you can visit all over the country and live internet bidding. They also have some clean title cars from dealers as well. www.copart.com is their website.


thank you very much!

can I sell the cars I buy from their without registering it under my name first and pay taxes etc?


Check with your local state laws, but you might have to have a dealers license if you want to resell. You pay them and they basically give you the title. You are responsible for arranging and paying transport costs.

doctorman said: thank you very much!

can I sell the cars I buy from their without registering it under my name first and pay taxes etc?


if I have business name (dba registered with the state) am still considered public and need a dealer and have to buy the car through the dealer and pay them the 200-300$?

does their prices go close to the public prices like on craigs list?


doctorman said: if I have business name (dba registered with the state) am still considered public and need a dealer and have to buy the car through the dealer and pay them the 200-300$?

does their prices go close to the public prices like on craigs list?

Most auctions like Mahiem and Adessa are dealer only (dealer's license). They sell clean title dealer cars.
With copart you can only bid if you have a DBA or business license. The membership fee applies no matter what. About 85% of Copart's cars are salavage and you can find some real bargains. Most of the sellers on Copart are insurance companies.


WATCH OUT YOU WIN A CAR THEN THEY DELIVER IT WITH PARTS MISSING..YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED ALL A SCAM


TRUST ME WATCH THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU COMPLAINTS COMING AS WELL AS INVESTIGATIONS FOR FRAUD


there site says

WE WILL PURSUE THE ACQUISITION OF THIS VEHICLE FROM INSURANCE AUCTION UPON RECEIVING YOUR DEPOSIT, which is usually due next business day. If we acquire the vehicle, your purchase is finalized. If we cannot acquire your vehicle, you can leave your deposit for your next offer or request a refund.

sounds like SCAM CITY


I rushed a $400.00 dollar deposit thru Pay Pal as soon as bidding was over, for a car I was the high bidder on at close of bidding 9pm.
Next morning I was informed I was not the high bidder. Was asked to up my bid if I wanted to continue bidding. I did not increase my bid. I left my deposit in place for a few weeks thinking I might win a bid, forget that. They contact you after the bid close and try to pump you to increase your bid.
I finally bought a car locally. On 8/15/2009 I requested a refund of my $400.00 deposit less the 10% they required to make a refund.
They say it will take 21 days to process a refund. (BS). I have been waiting 42 days for the refund and still no money. I have emailed them and talked to them on the phone. They say the check will be mailed.
Additionally Pay Pal ceased doing business with them.
Beware of this company. If it is this hard to get $360.00 dollars back on a $400.00 deposit, a person would be crazy to send them thousands for a car they might have been the high bidder on.
I would also join a a lawsuit against them. However after researching the law they seem have all their bases covered under NY laws.
They may not have their bases covered under Federal Laws doing interstate commerce business. Some legal actions should be taken by ones who have been scammed for over $1000.00


So did you end up putting down the deposit? I also just ran across that website but decided to search for any information available about this scammer site... Have all of you who had a bad experience with them report these guys to the BBB?


HEY THEY ROBBED ME OVER $1000 I AM TIRED OF WAITINF WRITING TO DA OFFICE DO YOU WANT TO JOIN IN !!! LETS GET THEM I HAVE OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL THAT NEVER GOT THERE DEPOSITS BACK !!


YOU KNOW WHY THEY DONT USE PAYPAL NO MORE ?? THEY HAVE SO MANY CLAIMS AGAIST THEM THE DA OFFICE WILL GET THEM TRUST ME !!!


Their whole business model has scam written all over it in my opinion. They could tell everyone their bid wasn't high enough and keep 10% over and over. What would be more legitimate is if they only take a commission if you win.


ezsalavgescammers said: YOU KNOW WHY THEY DONT USE PAYPAL NO MORE ?? THEY HAVE SO MANY CLAIMS AGAIST THEM THE DA OFFICE WILL GET THEM TRUST ME !!!

Please fix your caps lock key before posting here again. Also please run spell check. Also 's are not optional. Oh and a single question mark and exclamation point is entirely sufficient.


DONT WORRY DA IS INVESTIGATING............SOON !!!


LISTEN SEND YOUR INFO TO D.A. OFFICE IN THE BRONX I SENT IT IN THEY ARE GETTING ALL THE FACTS DONT WORRY THERE GOING TO JAIL THEY ARE ROBBING SO MANY PEOPLE AND PAYPAL ALREADY HAS SENT D.A. OFFICE THEY ARE IN TROUBLE CALL EZSALVAGE TELL THEM YOU ARE SENDING INFO TO D.A. OFFICE IN THE BRONX TELL THEM YOU SEE ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SCAMMED AND SENT ALL INFO TO D.A. INVESTIGATION IN PROCESS !!!!


LordB said: ezsalavgescammers said: YOU KNOW WHY THEY DON'T USE PAYPAL NO MORE ?? THEY HAVE SO MANY CLAIMS AGANIST THEM THE DA OFFICE WILL GET THEM TRUST ME !

Please fix your caps lock key before posting here again. Also please run spell check. Also 's are not optional. Oh and a single question mark and exclamation point is entirely sufficient.
LOOK DUMMY LEARN WHEN TO USE A CAPITAL !!1 oh ? you mean OH what a uneducated dummy like his father no doubt !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11


Thank you for posting this info, ezsalvagescammer, However, please understand posting all caps is the equivalent of yelling and considered bad form. Please post with either the regular amount of caps or no caps at all. Also, please respect the users of this forum. Calling them names will only result in disciplinary action.


I placed a 'bid' and was the 'highest legitimate offer' followed by the 400 deposit. I am playing wait-and-see with them.

Would it be legal to call your bank and get the charges reversed?


All refunds must be requested via our website; the refund request form can be found at the following location: http://ezsalvage.com/refund.php

After requesting your refund any follow up on your refunds can be done via Email contacting
the Ezslavage Refund Department as follows: Refunds@ezsalvage.com


EZ salvage is not a scam; Some users do not take the time to read thoroughly prior
to bidding and funding which can cause mis-understandings. EZ Salvage provides a
bidding platform for buyers that are not licensed to buy cars from Insurance auctions.
We represent insurance auctions and display cars for sale; there is no "buy now"
pricing, and only a user with the highest offer at the time of bidding period
ending with a funded account has his or her offer submitted. Such
offers are either accepted or rejected by the insurance auction.

The EZsalvage Quick Start Guide explains how the process works
Please read through this to understand how to quickly start using EZ
http://ezsalvage.com/quickstart.php

EZ SALVAGE Frequently Asked Questions
This section can help you better understand doing business with EZ.
http://ezsalvage.com/faq.php

Please read the EZsalvage Fees & Refund Policy of ezsalvage
http://ezsalvage.com/static.php?id=5

Any customer that has a concern with a pending or past refund should
contact us directly to discuss. we can be reached at 7185029842
Mon - Fri 930am to 530p EST or via the Contact us page on EZsalvage.com
EZsalvage is a relatively new entity that strives daily to improve
our service, so any feed back is welcomed via the contact us page.


hey i hate to be a thorn in the side of this lynch mob ,but i have bought 4 cars in the last 2 months and every thing has been great nice cars for a little money . they even took one back that i did not like ! HAD MORE DAMAGE THEN I THOUGHT . ALL I CAN SAY IS ITS A INSURANCE AUCTION NOT A JUNK YARD YOU CANT BY A PORSCHE FOR 200 BUCKS . i am sure they make some money on the sale but all and all i think its fair.


I bid on a car and had to send them $800.00. Didnt win, asked for refund in Oct. They say on their site "up to 3 weeks". I waited finally they responded and gave me a check# and sent me a check for $720.00 (minus 10% for PayPal fees). Deposited the check---thing bounced, costing me $30.00 in NSF fees--and no $720.00. Out $750.00. Sending them another email tonight about the problem. Lawyer and BBB next.


EZSALVAGE is a bunch of LIES ! FRAUD !! PLZ DO NOT BID ! they ask you for a deposit and NEVER RETURN ! REFUND CHECKS are returned UNPAID ! All cheats ! They post pics of vehicles from COPART WEBSITE !


Dear Folks

EZsalvage like any new entity experiences growing pains, and as we recently celebrated our one year anniversary, we have implemented many changes to address these pains.

* Additional customer service staff
* Additional Phone lines
* Larger office space with more resources
* Training of staff to better assist customers
* automated refund process
* Electronic refund capabilities

as far as some the fat wallet users that seem to think that pay pal is the solution for ecommerce companies,
take a look at this website on unsatisfied pay pal users.
http://paypalsucks.com/

EZ Salvage can be reached Monday thru Friday at 718 502 9842 or via email Service AT EZsalvage.com

Thank you
EZsalvage


Care to address the complaints above?


Does it matter? They have a 'F' rating with the BBB now.


EZSalvage said: Dear Folks

EZsalvage like any new entity experiences growing pains, and as we recently celebrated our one year anniversary, we have implemented many changes to address these pains.

* Additional customer service staff
* Additional Phone lines
* Larger office space with more resources
* Training of staff to better assist customers
* automated refund process
* Electronic refund capabilities

as far as some the fat wallet users that seem to think that pay pal is the solution for ecommerce companies,
take a look at this website on unsatisfied pay pal users.
http://paypalsucks.com/

EZ Salvage can be reached Monday thru Friday at 718 502 9842 or via email Service AT EZsalvage.com

Thank you
EZsalvage

* Additional customer service staff - the son is helping after school
* Additional Phone lines - another Skype account
* Larger office space with more resources - they got the Quizno's next door to start letting them use its bathroom
* Training of staff to better assist customers - yeah, because before training, everyone was sitting there wondering if this was some kind of bus or a water park or something
* automated refund process - you hired Rube Goldberg?
* Electronic refund capabilities - got your PayPal account back?

All kidding aside, I would love to hear your responses to the above posts relating to the problems they've had with your company and whether or not they were successfully remedied.


And why not issue paypal refunds (skip the 10% penalty).

Like the "idea" of the business.. the follow through seems to be lacking.

Adding staff doesn't address the resolution of previous customers complaints - many of which seem to be financial based.


NSF checks are a BIG Red Flag


I noticed they hide the vins, even after you register.. that s a big flag I wanted to run some vins but you cant since they dont show them


Anyone care to comment on copart? What's the of bidding if it has to be approved?


I just bought a car through them, a 2003 BMW 3 series. It had front collision damage. My Body Shop did the work for less than $1,000 and I saved a good amount of money. Only thing that wasn't pleasant was the transport. It took two weeks instead of the 7 days they initially promised me over the phone. The sales-rep (Fady) was friendly and always helped me look for vehicles that would interest me. My son luckily gets this car.


Btw, my friend who also bought with them, he requested a refund as his car was put on SIU hold. It took 2 weeks, not fast so I guess if you deposit money you should really be a serious buyer.


They have another section of the website that displays full VINs in the photos. It is a different insurance co i guess. Here is the link:

http://www.ezsalvage.com/search.php?Search=MakeIAA&Make=BMW&Mode...


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Those scammers are now coming back to ripp of more people under a new name SALVAGEWORLD.COM, BEWARE, (the law does not protect idiots)




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