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****OFFICIAL RESELLER ECONOMY THREAD*** How are your sales now, and how do you think they will be come the holidays?

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Lots of talk about recessions, economic crisis, etc...

We've still been ramping up and preparing for the holiday season, and we think consumers will still continue to spend. However I know of a few sellers in my area who are considering either focusing on a niche, adding other streams of income, or quitting reselling altogether.

Overall sales are down this month compared to the past few years, and while there is a temptation for a refusal to play the guidance game with wall street, overall profit is up as we adjusted our strategy by thinking outside the box (basically, the paradigm shifting idea idea is to work less while making more - and in the proces, make some synergistic business decisions in accordance with our strategic plan - so we cut costs, and applied this results-driven strategy across the board while achieving a globalized symbiotic relationship with our suppliers and clients, and increased profit margin on our items). We're approaching the go/no go point, and everything looks copacetic with this proof of concept.

What are you doing, if anything?

Message edited by: STEALfromCAGgive2FW on 2008-10-30 10:21:52 CDT

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I sell sports apparel on eBay. I have already seen a large increase in sales over the last 2 weeks. I am hoping this trend will continue through the Christmas season.

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Things here are still going on business as usual. We've tried to get away from the cyclical items so don't expect much ramp up. There will still be some, but less than previous years.

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Overall, I'm bullish on the US economy (people who know me, know that I sell items at a premium price). I think the election will help increase consumer confidence and spending. People hate uncertainty, but there will be less once we know who won.

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Effect of economy situation on holiday sales? It will cause a downturn but eBay sales might actually get a benefit as people look for bargains. Big ticket items will be hurt most (cars, appliances, etc.)

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Stoned said:Effect of economy situation on holiday sales? It will cause a downturn but eBay sales might actually get a benefit as people look for bargains. Big ticket items will be hurt most (cars, appliances, etc.)

agreed. i am looking at lower cost goods trying to SQUEEZE every ounce of profit out I can. However its tough to say what segements, if any will get hit.

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I just had a buyer say they wanted to do local pickup for one of my Fleabay laptops. I jumped at the opportunity, gave him 90% of the EB/PP fee savings, even drove to his office to deliver it. I'm worried about my laptop inventory.

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I have been worried about the holiday sales. The summer was horrible for me. Sales were as bad as I have seen on eBay. The last few weeks though sales have been up. I hope that it continues.

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looks like more people are experiencing slower sales

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I was doing awesome all summer, right up to when the markets crashed a few weeks ago. Since then sales have been slow.

A few days ago I sold a large printer but I had to grit my teeth and cancel the order because the buyer was in Alaska. I'm desperate, but not desperate enough to eat a $120 postage fee!

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People are not buying because the media has them convinced that this is the worst economy since the depression,(what a bunch of bull,) aside from some of those stores like Mervyn's Linens n things (boring stores, that didn't follow the lead of WalMart and Target) etc.. I don't know anyone who has lost their jobs, also people think the stock market has a lot to do with our economy, when in reality it does not have as much to do with it as people think, if the dems get in, suddenly everything will be great again ......

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my widgets usually sell for ~$5 or so, and my business has not been affected much. I still get the occassional bidding wars that drives my $5 widget to >$40.

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carabuser said: I don't know anyone who has lost their jobs, also people think the stock market has a lot to do with our economy, when in reality it does not have as much to do with it as people think, if the dems get in, suddenly everything will be great again ......
You are whistling past the graveyard. We're seeing massive wealth destruction right now. Huge paper gains are vanishing into thin air. When people see their retirement funds plunge, they will reduce luxury spending. American consumers were spending based on imaginary real estate wealth, and now that it's gone they are going to cut back. It's going to be the worst Xmas since 1991 for retailers. We Fleabay sellers are also going to get hit.

Message edited by: airtommy on 2008-10-30 14:57:04 CDT
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carabuser said:People are not buying because the media has them convinced that this is the worst economy since the depression,(what a bunch of bull,) carabuser said:I don't know anyone who has lost their jobs,
I don't know anyone who is poor I guess there is no such thing as poverty. Anecdotal evidence isn't very compelling especially when actual statistics and evidence prove the opposite.

carabuser said: also people think the stock market has a lot to do with our economy, when in reality it does not have as much to do with it as people think,

401k's/ retirement funds, pensions in jeopardy from the beating their funds are taking or the company providing it is on the verge of collapse (for example - auto workers). College funds and regular brokage accounts, etc.

Yep stock market hardly effects people outside of wallstreet.....again actual data says otherwise. Plus real or not, the fear is real and that is enough to make it a reality.

carabuser said:if the dems get in, suddenly everything will be great again ......

Only if they cook books,(and this applies to whoever wins in Nov.) and like previous administrations from both sides of the aisle, make the economic numbers reported on the nightly news even more worthless.

Here is a great article that everyone should read about how the economic number that you hear get thrown around have been seriously manipulated to provide a better outlook on the economy than the reality. It has been going on little by little for over 50 years but few outside economists have payed attention.

Harper's Magazine - May 2008
Numbers racket: Why the economy is worse than we know

http://harpers.org/archive/2008/05/0082023

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profit up 5.1% ytd , so i am expecting a healthy christmas season. although i have had to take losses on Dell laptops >1500 as they are not selling well. good luck to all.

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bevo2k1 said:profit up 5.1% ytd , so i am expecting a healthy christmas season.
What about the last few weeks since the markets began crashing?

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airtommy said:carabuser said: I don't know anyone who has lost their jobs, also people think the stock market has a lot to do with our economy, when in reality it does not have as much to do with it as people think, if the dems get in, suddenly everything will be great again ......
You are whistling past the graveyard. We're seeing massive wealth destruction right now. Huge paper gains are vanishing into thin air. When people see their retirement funds plunge, they will reduce luxury spending. American consumers were spending based on imaginary real estate wealth, and now that it's gone they are going to cut back. It's going to be the worst Xmas since 1991 for retailers. We Fleabay sellers are also going to get hit.

The stock market is a leading indicator of economic growth. This means that a bear market is an indication of a recession beginning or in process. GDP declined 3.3% last quarter. That is another sign of a recession. Large layoffs in industrial companies (auto industry, appliances, etc.)as consumers cut back on discretionary spending. Interest rates are about as low as the Fed can reduce them. This recession may not be as long or as deep as some think because of reduced commodity prices (oil for example) and federal reserve moves (pumping cash into the economy, lower cost of funds, etc.).

I agree that the retail environment this holiday season will be bleak as people cut credit card debt and face layoffs.

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airtommy said:bevo2k1 said:profit up 5.1% ytd , so i am expecting a healthy christmas season.
What about the last few weeks since the markets began crashing?

combined with the 30% off CashBack. it is hard to say. some of my BIN still didnt sell at same price with 30%, but when i dropped $200 on each, they sold.

looking strictly at this week. i sold 6 laptops but 11 didnt sell. (about average)
week before that 4s /12u
week before that 4s /10u

on a side note. my craigslist market has dried up. economy? i guess.

i have not changed my buying pattern. if anything changes i will let you know.

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bevo2k1 said:combined with the 30% off CashBack it is hard to say.
Absolutely! With big ticket items on Fleabay like computers, 30% CashBack is definitely skewing our "market data". My AMZ sales have plummeted, and I think that's a better indication of the economy.

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