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Thanks to the OP... I gave Firebird a testdrive and liked it... but, in my case anyway, special thanks to:

philipz said:

<< Or you could download Avant which does everything Firebird does plus you still get the speed and compatibility that IE offers. Avant is free. >>

I tried it out too and like it the best of all...

I supposed that's why there's chocolate and vanilla!


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You can see an interesting demo of the URL-spoofing exploit at NetSquirrel.com/spoof, third link down. It's the link which appears to go to Microsoft.com, but instead goes to eBay.

How does Firebird react, does it show the little square to warn you that there is something weird about the link, or does it fall for it hook-line-and-sinker like IE?


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Austex, Firebird does go to that link because it is an acceptable URL form, just obfuscated.


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Rather than displaying www.microsoft.com (which IE does), it displays http://www.microsoft.com%01%00@ebay.com/ (which is what it is supposed to do).


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Well, sorry if this adds one too many choices!

kmeleon.sourceforge.net - excellent tabbed/popup-blocking browser. The developers are using Mozilla as a base with all new coding and whatever they did - the browser (informal tests) is faster than Opera/Firebird.

Also, I was a Crazy Browser user. BUT!!!! Crazy Browser (Slimbrowser, AVANT)
are shells around lets have a security problem of the day IE!

In my opinion, this browser (as it stands now) should be what Firebird aims to be when it grows up.


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k-meleon renders at approximately the same rate as opera (which is faster than mozilla & MUCH faster than IE). But Opera has mouse gestures and other shortcuts, which makes navigation faster. There are mozilla plugins to add mouse gestures, but they don't work as well as Opera's IMHO.

One that is faster and lighter than even opera is the off by one browser. This isn't HTML 4.0 compliant, but can browse a majority of sites that are out there.


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Learnt a lot here. So there are browsers besides IE and Netscape.

Firebird, Opera, Avant, Slim Browser, MyIE2, Mozilla, K-meleon, Crazy Browzer.

Does any of them have a light weight version for the PDA? I have an iPAQ running PC2002. I tried to do web browsing with a Linksys 802.11b CF card. The performance is very slow. I am not sure where the limitation is: the browser software, the bandwidth bottleneck of 802.11b at the CF card, the CPU power, or something else.

Thanks.


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My iPaq (running Pocket PC 2003) and a wireless card shows web pages pretty quickly. Unfortunately, the size reduction frequently makes them hard to read.

Is there a browser that lets you turn a PDA 90 degrees, to better fit the pages to the screen?
Is there a list of common web pages (cnn, yahoo, etc) that have PDA-formatted versions?


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i downloaded firebird and was impressed with everything except the speed (which is more important imo)...it was a dog loading pages and i have a fast machine and connection. i switched back to IE...might try avant. does it have an autofill option?


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Arthas, have you tried one of these builds? They are optimized and tend to run faster.


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thanks


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HotStuff2 said:

<< I've said it before, I'll say it again:

No other browser comes close to SlimBrowser. Far too many features to list, and once you use it, you won't use any other - ever.
>>

All features
Multiple site browser based on tab-page interface
Seamless integration with AI RoboForm FormFiller/Password Manager
Built-in Popup Killer based on intelligent identification and pre-defined filtering
Site windows killed by mistake are FULLY RECOVERABLE
Convenient access to major search engines by Quick-Search Bar
Seamless integration of most Internet Explorer tooblars
ScriptPad: Built-in VBScript/Jscript/HTML/Text editor. View screenshot.
Hidden Sites : hide and show a site at users' request
Skinned window frame.
Free-zooming of any web page.
AutoLogin: automatically connect and log into specified website with just one click.
Seamless integration with online translation engine and dictionaries
Ability to suppress script error message dialog
Site Group: Open and save a collection of sites as a group
Flexible control of startup actions
URL Alias: Type short alias instead long URL.


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I'm a proponent of Firebird for the Mac. Excellent browser. For windows, I use Mozilla 1.5, I've found it to be a very stable browser.


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There is a version of Opera for PDA's though it is not free...


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CompSurfer said:

<< Arthas, have you tried one of these builds? They are optimized and tend to run faster. >>

I downloaded the original version. Is there a way of upgrading to the build without losing the extensions I have installed?


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Arthas76 said:

<< i downloaded firebird and was impressed with everything except the speed (which is more important imo)...it was a dog loading pages and i have a fast machine and connection. i switched back to IE...might try avant. does it have an autofill option? >>

yes, RoboForm works well for this function... I'm a new fan of Avant!


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fse said:

<< There is a version of Opera for PDA's though it is not free... >>

How is the performance? How much is it? Are there any browsers that have a PDA version for PC2002? The performance of IE is slow that deemed my wireless CF card useless.


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i've used all kinds of browsers. i like the slim browser & IE2(both nice features) but my favorite is Avant Browser.


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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Slimbrowser, Avant Browser and IE2 just changes to IE? If so, they wouldn't correct IE's myriad of security problems. Mozilla and Firebird are very secure. For me at least it took a while to get used to something other than IE or an IE derivative, but now I'm hooked on Firebird. No more IE for me!


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I've been using MyIE2 for awhile now and will never go back to non-tabbed browsing.

A few questions, does Firebird have:
- the ability to have the tabs on either the top or bottom
- Super Drag&Drop or the like
I find this feature invaluable. I can highlight a word and drag my mouse and said word will be Google'd. I can also highlight a url, drag, and the url will be opened in a new tab.
- Mouse Gestures or something similar
- will open tabs be remembered/recoverable in case of a crash

There are a few MyIE2 plugins that I find pretty handy that I'm not sure Firebird has:

Font Changer - I can change the font (font, size, and style) of a page to anything I want
T!nyURL - Click it and it creates a T!nyURL of the current page (I don't know why T_i_nyURL is a no-no word, odd)
Flash Save - save Flash objects
Image Viewer - Opens all images on a page in new tabs
Zoom - enlarge and shrink images in browser

and much much more . . . MyIE2 has really provided everything I have wanted and more in a browser.


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