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kahoots - please go to the first post in this thread and look for the link that says My wireless nework doesn't reach far enough

See if that helps. You might also want to follow the Basic Education links to some of the vendor network configuration wizards, but there may not be much information there, as you are pursuing a solution that pushes the technology

When you post back, it would be best if you create a new thread in this (Computer) forum, as the way this forum tends to operate is that threads like this are primarily used for reference and do not tend to be monitored for posting activity.

So, you'll get the fastest "service" by creating your own thread. (We tend to operate a little bit differently, and a lot politer than other FW forums)

Hope this helps

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Hi, when I go to 192.168.1.1, it will not recognize my user ID and password. Any thoughts? Thanks, mrbthree

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Is this the first time logging into your router? if it is read your handbook. It tells you the user name and password.

mrbthree said: Hi, when I go to 192.168.1.1, it will not recognize my user ID and password. Any thoughts? Thanks, mrbthree

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mrbthree said: Hi, when I go to 192.168.1.1, it will not recognize my user ID and password. Any thoughts? Thanks, mrbthreeAssuming that you are bringing up the webpage for your router

1. Try other user ID /password combinations you might have used. Note that many routers allow you to change the password but not the user id, so try the default user ID
2. Make sure that cap lock/num lock are set to your standard usage
3. If they are, try changing them, and re-enter your security info
4. Try the default security information, per the documentation
5. If all else fails, do a hard reset on the router and use the default security informatio

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I need more ports for my network so I connected a wired router to my wireless router. So right now my setup is I have my wireless router is connected to the modem, then on one of the ports on the wireless I have it going to the wired router. The internet net seems to work ok for almost all sites but 1. I can not go to Fatwallet.com on the computer that is connected to the wired (2nd) router. Any ideas?

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You can encounter network issues with two DHCP servers active (i.e. both routers hand out IP addresses)

A better answer is to plug a switch into the wireless router. You can buy a dedicated switch, or you can turn your wired router into a switch by using the management web page to turn off DHCP. If you do this, be sure to stop using the WAN/internet port. All connections should get plugged into the LAN ports

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ellory said: You can encounter network issues with two DHCP servers active (i.e. both routers hand out IP addresses)

A better answer is to plug a switch into the wireless router. You can buy a dedicated switch, or you can turn your wired router into a switch by using the management web page to turn off DHCP. If you do this, be sure to stop using the WAN/internet port. All connections should get plugged into the LAN ports


Seemed to work.

Thank you

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For people who have issues with the MS Wireless XBOX Adapter (MN-740)

There is a connectivity issue if you have MAC filtering enabled. See solution below.


DSLreports forum-"This bridge device passes on the MAC of the device behind it. So if you have MAC filtering on, you have to enter the MAC of the MN-740 as well as the MAC of your Xbox."

If you don't know your XBOX MAC you can just disable the filtering and let your adapter connect. You will see one MAC address in there which you don't have on the list, this is the MAC for your xbox and needs to be added to the list. If you still have problems feel free to send me a PM.

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You've supplied more information than I have been able to extract from either Verizon (who basically said they weren't responsbile for providing information on hardware) and Westell whom I haven't been able to get in contact by either phone or website.

I am an advanced computer user both with hardward and software applications. However I have limited experience in networking. I haven't had any problems in connecting to the internet with the Westell Versalink 327W.

The problem that I am having is a conflict with an IP Address. I'm am currently working from home using "Virtual Office" that was setup by the company where I work. Due to security issues they have decided to setup a SonicWall VPN. Currently the router and SonicWall VPN are using the same IP Address 192.168.1.x. The router takes priority over the VPN and does not allow the computer to recognize the VPN. Your article did an excellent job in describing exactly what I am experiencing. I need to reconfigure my router IP Address to 192.168.2.x so that the conflict will be resolved.

My operating system is Windows XP Professional with SP2. IBM Netvista - Pentium III - 734 MHZ - 256 MB RAM I am using Verizon DSL with a Westell Versalink 327M (which I assume has a built in Linksys router).

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You've supplied more information than I have been able to extract from either Verizon (who basically said they weren't responsbile for providing information on hardware) and Westell whom I haven't been able to get in contact by either phone or website.

I am an advanced computer user both with hardward and software applications. However I have limited experience in networking. I haven't had any problems in connecting to the internet with the Westell Versalink 327W.

The problem that I am having is a conflict with an IP Address. I'm am currently working from home using "Virtual Office" that was setup by the company where I work. Due to security issues they have decided to setup a SonicWall VPN. Currently the router and SonicWall VPN are using the same IP Address 192.168.1.x. The router takes priority over the VPN and does not allow the computer to recognize the VPN. Your article did an excellent job in describing exactly what I am experiencing. I need to reconfigure my router IP Address to 192.168.2.x so that the conflict will be resolved.

My operating system is Windows XP Professional with SP2. IBM Netvista - Pentium III - 734 MHZ - 256 MB RAM I am using Verizon DSL with a Westell Versalink 327M (which I assume has a built in Linksys router).

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jmullins said: You've supplied more information than I have been able to extract from either Verizon (who basically said they weren't responsbile for providing information on hardware) and Westell whom I haven't been able to get in contact by either phone or website. Pretty amazing isn't it? Although a lot of the credit for the Verizon /Westell information is due to DragonsLore's contribution. (Which I relied on, and then amplified, when I needed to support someone with Verizon network issues
The problem that I am having is a conflict with an IP Address. I'm am currently working from home using "Virtual Office" that was setup by the company where I work. Due to security issues they have decided to setup a SonicWall VPN. Currently the router and SonicWall VPN are using the same IP Address 192.168.1.x. The router takes priority over the VPN and does not allow the computer to recognize the VPN. Your article did an excellent job in describing exactly what I am experiencing. I need to reconfigure my router IP Address to 192.168.2.x so that the conflict will be resolved. Thanks for the feedback. Glad you were able to find the information you needed - and that's exactly the suggestion I would have made.

By the way, I see you're a new member. I assume you found this via google. Just curious as to what search terms you used and how high in the hit list this came up

Post back and let me know if it worked, or if there are modifications that need to be made in what's here to make it more useful for others

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I can't connect when I use the WEP key/passphrase

The problem is probably with the WEP key. Most manufacturers do an extremely poor job of explaining the process. There are basically 2 ways to enter a key: You can enter a key directly or use a passphrase. The passphase is used to generate a key. Your hardware may use the terms Hex and ASCII instead of key and passphrase.

Many people end up entering the same digits in both pieces of hardware, but in one they enter it as a key and the other as a passphrase. Even if both use passphrases, they may have to be compatible hardware for them to generate the same key from the same passphrase.

So, if you're sure what you've entered is the same, enter the hex key instead of the PassPhrase

For 128 Bit WEP, you should be entering a 26 digit hex key into each piece.
For 64 Bit, you should have a 10 digit hex key
If your hardware supports 256, it should be 57

In ASCII, 128 bit is 13 digits
64 Bit is 5 digits
256 is 29

Credit to drodge

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I don't know anything about how to set up a wireless network, please help. I have a ADSL service and a wired modem (it said: ADSL Modem Router), it has no antenna. I am confused, what is a router, a modem/router, a wireless router, a wireless modem/router? Now I want to go wireless, what I should buy and what steps I should take.
Thanks

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truongmymy said: I don't know anything about how to set up a wireless network, please help. I have a ADSL service and a wired modem (it said: ADSL Modem Router), it has no antenna. I am confused, what is a router, a modem/router, a wireless router, a wireless modem/router? Now I want to go wireless, what I should buy and what steps I should take.
Thanks

1. Suggest that you start a new thread for your question, as it is a lot easier for those of here to follow/update
2. Before you do, please follow the links in the beginning of this thread to basic education. We will need you to try to use the proper terms - not because we're being difficult, but because precision is important so that we don't give you bad advice
3. Be as precise as possible with what you're trying to do and with what hardware you have (including service provider brand and model #). Use the third sticky as a guide.

If I were to make a wild guess, I would guess that you have Verizon DSL service and a Westell wired router. If so, there are some special issues you need to be aware of. (There are refereneces in the first post you can follow).

But let's wait unitl you post a new thread with your information before I make any further baseless guesses

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Hi

Thank for your advice. However, I am in Vietnam and I think the ISP here is a little bit different. I aksed them what I should buy if I want to set up a wireless network. They answered that I already had a modem router (named Planet ADSL Modem Router), what I need now is an antenna. Confused

Truongmymy

Ps: I will try to read from the beginning again. Thanks

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Obviously my guess was way off. That will teach me.

I'll look for your standalone thread. But, for some early guidance, it sounds like your DSL modem also has a built in router/DHCP server. (i.e. you can connect multiple PCs via wires)

Although you can buy a standalone Access Point (what they call an antenana), your cheapest solution is likely to be that you should buy a Wireless Router and disable DHCP. Then connect one the wireless router via one of its LAN ports to your DSL modem. (which may have multiple ports).

You can connect wired PCs to the LAN ports of the wireless router (but do not use its WAN/uplink port)

Your wireless PC will communicate to the Wireless Router which will forward information on to the DSL modem/router.

Make sure you read the security information

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Hi
Thanks for your help. I see the option of disable DHCP SERVER in my Modem/Router menu. So do you mean I should disable it, or I should disable the DHCP of my wireless router?

Truong

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truongmymy said: Hi
Thanks for your help. I see the option of disable DHCP SERVER in my Modem/Router menu. So do you mean I should disable it, or I should disable the DHCP of my wireless router?

Truong
You have two choices
1. Disable DHCP in the Modem/Router. Then connect the WAN/uplink port of your Wireless router to the modem/router. And connect all your devices (wired and wireless) to the wireless router
2. Disable DHCP in the wireless router. Then connect a LAN port of the wireles router to the modem/router. Then connect devices either to the LAN ports of the wireless router or the modem/router

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Special Issues using a SonicWall VPN to access a corporate network

You cannot have the SonicWall VPN and your home router use the same IP address (e.g. 192.168.1.1). When this happens, your router IP address takes priority over the VPN and does not allow the computer to recognize the VPN.

The solution: Reconfigure my router IP Address to something different (e.g.) 192.168.2.x so that the conflict will be resolved.

Also, make sure you have IPSec passthrough turned on

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I have a fast wired ethernet cards and would like to use them to transfer information between the computers, not the WiFi network. How do I set up both Wifi Internet link and a hard-wired link between two PCs.

Let the Wireless Router the Default Gteway for the first gigabit NIC on the first PC.
Let the Wireless Router automatically assign an IP address, subnet mask, DNS server, and Default Gteway to that NIC.

Let the Wireless Router the Default Gteway for the wireless NIC on the second PC.
Let the Wireless Router automatically assign an IP address, subnet mask, and DNS server, and Default Gteway to that NIC.

Assign a pair of static IP addresses and subnet masks (i.e. 10.0.100.1 and 10.0.100.2, both with subnet mask 255.255.255.0) to the two gigabit NICs that are connected via crossover cable. Enter nothing for the DNS server and enter nothing for the Default Gteway for these two connected NICs. You can have only one Default Gteway for a PC. And you won't need DNS services for contacting the other PC located on the same subnet.

This will make the wireless router the Default Gteway for both PCs. This will be necessary when trying to contact "foreign" IP addresses (i.e. Internet addresses). So both PCs will use the wireless router when trying to find Internet addresses.
On the other hand, when trying to find addresses on your gigabit network, the two PCs will use NetBIOS for name resolution and, since the IP addresses of the other PC is on the same subnet, should have no problem contacting the other PC via the gigabit NIC.

Note that, upon first connection, it might take a while for the NetBIOS function to get the names of the two PCs. So you might not be able to browse the other PC for a few minutes. You should be able to immediately browse it using its IP address (i.e. \\\\10.0.100.1).

Credit: RebateMonger

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I am just starting with networking and am finding very useful info here. My question is a general one, so I hope it belongs here and not in a new thread.
If the wireless router and Wireless USB adapter recah different levels of security, am I correct in assuming that they can be used at the highest common standard?

I read the posts about security, does this mean that no one should be buying adapters etc. that have anything less than WPA2? Many adapters etc. that I see are only WPA, or even only WEP. Am I handing out my CC info if I use WPA?

Thanks Ellory (and the rest) for putting in so much time and effort to help educate the ignorant!

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bashg1 said: I am just starting with networking and am finding very useful info here. My question is a general one, so I hope it belongs here and not in a new thread.
If the wireless router and Wireless USB adapter recah different levels of security, am I correct in assuming that they can be used at the highest common standard?

I read the posts about security, does this mean that no one should be buying adapters etc. that have anything less than WPA2? Many adapters etc. that I see are only WPA, or even only WEP. Am I handing out my CC info if I use WPA?

Thanks Ellory (and the rest) for putting in so much time and effort to help educate the ignorant!
Thanks very much (from all of us).

To answer your excellent question, WPA is, for all practical purposes, unbreakable. It, like other security does have an exposure - brute force dictionary attacks. i.e. just keep picking passwords and trying them.

To prevent this, choose a strong password. Steve Gibson's password generator site is an ideal place to get a randon password http:/www.grc.com/passwords Its one time generation, and is as close to random and strong as anything that can be generated. Because it relies on SSL encryption, the password it serves will be delivered securely to you, even over an otherwise insecure connection

And, because it prevents akami and other services from caching it, no one, even if you generated it over a public computer, can even see what you got once you close the web page, navigate to another site or refresh

And thank you for asking I've been meaning to update that information - which I just have - with more current information. The WPA2 requirement was more strong than it should be.

And, there are now emerging ways to protect yourself in public hotspots - all VPN based. None very easy yet. Public terminals should always be considered to be insecure. And, unfortunately, because most hotels use hubs, even plugging your personal compuer into a wired hotel network should be considered risky. Every packet transmitted to or from your computer is likely broadcast to every room in the hotel. A simple packet sniffer could read everything

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Thank you for the swift reply.

2 more things.
1) I cannot seem to get the link to the password generator to work - it looks like it is doubled with http and https. I tried it with just https and it worked.

2) Whats the story with WPA PSK? I have searched around but the info on the web is not as clear as that posted here! Is it a separate technology, or a separate way that WPA is used? Is it compatable with regular WPA?
I am asking because I have a WPA enabled router, and I just ordered a WPA enabled card, but I see on the manufacturers site that the card is WPA-PSK enabled.

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bashg1 said: Thank you for the swift reply.

2 more things.
1) I cannot seem to get the link to the password generator to work - it looks like it is doubled with http and https. I tried it with just https and it worked.
You're right. And I can't seem to fix it. FW keeps re-inserting the double http. I've just unlinked it

2) Whats the story with WPA PSK? I have searched around but the info on the web is not as clear as that posted here! Is it a separate technology, or a separate way that WPA is used? Is it compatable with regular WPA?
I am asking because I have a WPA enabled router, and I just ordered a WPA enabled card, but I see on the manufacturers site that the card is WPA-PSK enabled.
These are all different WPA options. PSK is pre-shared key and is widely prevalent. Radius requires a seperate Radius server for authentication - common only in larger businesses. Just make sure the WPA option is set the same way on all your devices and you will be fine

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I need a solution to this problem.
I have a closing office in the basement, and an office upstairs on the third floor.

During closings, I needa prepare legal dox. I have a computer on my secretary's desk, but during a closing the basement closing room gets so tight and squishy that it is impractical to sit in her chair for as long as it takes to prepare the dox.

What I end up doing now is getting all of the papers I need, and running upstairs and preparing the dox at the roominess of my upstairs desk while everyone downstairs sits and waits for me. The long trek up and down can be eliminated if I do all of my doc prep downstairs. That said, I would need a solution to prepare dox at the table without:
a) wires
b) breaking the bank

There is a Brother MFC 9700 down there, used as a fax and printer for my secretary. It is connected to her machine via parallell, and has a USB connector as well. I do not think it would let me connect both at the same time for two diff devices, but I have not tried it.

If I bought a dedicated laptop with wireless capability and superdeedooper battery life (remember - no cords to trip everyone up in the confines of this squishy-sqashy room), I would then need either a wireless router that can A/B the secretary's computer and mine to the MFC 9700 or a dedicated infrared printer (remember the old HP 6P/6MP's?) that can print legal and letter sized dox without a drawer change.

How would you recommend this setup? If a router is needed, I have NO idea how to set it up. Is it easy? Thank you.

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As a guide, here's one way to do this. There may be better ways, but we'll need more details to know. See the first post in this thread for additional details. Then post back with any additional questions or needs for clarification.

Best if you create a new thread when you post back. And you provide the details requested in the 3rd sticky. I apologize for taking so long to respond here, its just that we rarely look at sticky threads - really only looking at new threads. That's why its best to create a new thread

1. Buy an 802.11g wireless router. These also support wired connections. Wireless coverage is best when its centrally located. If coverage ranges are "long" and you need better range, see the posts about extending the range of a network. The router can be conneced into the internet if you need internet capability. This is not requied.

2. Depending on where you place the router, establish a wired or wireless connection between each PC /laptop and the router. You will need either an ethernet port on each device or a wireless adaptor. If you don't have one, the external USB ones are fine. If you have range issues, you may need special ones. Make sure you follow the instructions to setup WPA security

3. Establish file and printer sharing across the desired devices. See the first post on the details on how to do this.

4. As far as two printers being attached to a single computer. This should work fine. You just need to select which printer your print to at the time you print.

(Note: if your "upstairs" computer does not need to share files /printer with anything downstairs, then simply installing the router downstairs will work fine. Then you can share your laptop and the desktop files and printer)

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You mentioned PAN(personal area network). I have a Brother 8220 in my office and use my wireless laptop from the bedroom all the time. How can I determine if the Brother 8220 is PAN compatible and what type of bluetooth device do I need to print from my laptop to desktop? A small little USB bluetooth device would be great and help eliminate wires.

Great thread.
Thanks.
David.

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I've been trying desperately to configure a VPN server and client so that I can log on to my home network from a laptop at any hotspot.
I have XP home on both. I've followed all the instructions I could find on the web and I've configured an incoming connection at home and a vpn client on the laptop.
I've been checking for services on the westell 327w dsl/router but can't find any ports I need to forward. I just keep getting error 800 when I try to logon. Any suggestions? I'm very new to this and have spent weeks trying to understand what I'm doing.

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davidaexp1 said: You mentioned PAN(personal area network). I have a Brother 8220 in my office and use my wireless laptop from the bedroom all the time. How can I determine if the Brother 8220 is PAN compatible and what type of bluetooth device do I need to print from my laptop to desktop? A small little USB bluetooth device would be great and help eliminate wires.

Great thread.
Thanks.
David.
If I recall correctly that Brother device is not network capable, rather it connects directly to another PC in your office. Therefore, the best approach is to use your WiFi network and enable printer sharing as per the steps outlined here

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orangespot said: I've been trying desperately to configure a VPN server and client so that I can log on to my home network from a laptop at any hotspot.
I have XP home on both. I've followed all the instructions I could find on the web and I've configured an incoming connection at home and a vpn client on the laptop.
I've been checking for services on the westell 327w dsl/router but can't find any ports I need to forward. I just keep getting error 800 when I try to logon. Any suggestions? I'm very new to this and have spent weeks trying to understand what I'm doing.
Fabulous question. I too am concerned about security in public spots.

Unfortunately, you haven't provided the level of detail for us to know what you're working with. For the type of information that we need, see the 3rd sticky. Especially in this case, exact model and version numbers of all software and hardware. (We don't even know what VPN client you're trying to use. And, of course, unless you have a static IP address, that is an issue as well)

Without knowing what VPN software you're using, I strongly suggest you give iPIG (iOpus Private Internet Gateway) a try.. Strange name I know.

Freeware versions are available. And its been checked out by Steve Gibson as being secure (search this page for iPIG and you will the audio link as well as a transcript)

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Do you guys think the bridging instructions for WRT54G (w/ Belkin 7230-4) work with other flavors of the router like:

LINKSYS WRT54GS IEEE 802.3, IEEE 802.11b/g Wireless Broadband Router - Retail

LINKSYS WRT54GL IEEE 802.3/3u, IEEE 802.11b/g Wireless-G Broadband Router - Retail

Thanks in advance...



dewce said: Bridging a Linksys WRT54G and Belkin 7230-4 Wirelessly

These steps will create a wireless bridge between a WRT54G as the Gateway and a 7230-4 as an access point (AP). The AP will act as a repeater (extending the range of your wireless network), as well as an AP. The AP will also act as an ethernet bridge, so you can plug it in to an xbox or ps2 (or a computer with ethernet but no wireless) to gain access to your wireless network. I am writing this because I found many tutorials explaining how to connect two WRT54G's together, but nothing explaining how to connect a Linksys and a Belkin. After trial and error, this is what I came up with:
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amateurPro2 said: Do you guys think the bridging instructions for WRT54G (w/ Belkin 7230-4) work with other flavors of the router like:

LINKSYS WRT54GS IEEE 802.3, IEEE 802.11b/g Wireless Broadband Router - Retail

LINKSYS WRT54GL IEEE 802.3/3u, IEEE 802.11b/g Wireless-G Broadband Router - Retail

Thanks in advance...
Can you try this and report back your results?

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I wish more people would take 3 sec. and read this stuff...I am having flashbacks to the situation of a fewmonths back.

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My confusion with my printer setting is when the darn IP changes. I have my Dell network ready printer conencted to my router. It gets assigned a IP like 198.xx.xx.1. I set up my computer to Add Printer, choose network and use the address http://198.xx.xx.1 and it works fine.

Problem comes around whenever the router is rebooted (by power failure or whatever) and then I find the printer ip has changed to 198.xx.xx.4 (or some other different last digit). Then I have to delete ethe old printer and add a new one!

How do I just get it to know teh printer is now at a different IP automatically?

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Why not set the printer to use a static IP address?

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I know that anyone in this room has experience about router . . .
Can someone please help me? I cant configure my router ( I used CD and online) but my router didnt work.I asked the linksys service that said:
1. Make sure that the device is turned on.
2. Press and hold the reset button.
3. After 30 seconds, remove the power plug while the button is pressed.
4. Let go of the reset button and turn on the device

I did like they said but it still couldnt configure the router,can someone help me out?The first time I congigure online that router work out very well.I had this problem after I log into the website http://192.168.1.1 .Thank you very much for your helping
By the way :My router: Linksys wireless B
Model : BEFW11S4 ver.4

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mthlh said: I know that anyone in this room has experience about router . . .
Can someone please help me? I cant configure my router ( I used CD and online) but my router didnt work.I asked the linksys service that said:
1. Make sure that the device is turned on.
2. Press and hold the reset button.
3. After 30 seconds, remove the power plug while the button is pressed.
4. Let go of the reset button and turn on the device

I did like they said but it still couldnt configure the router,can someone help me out?The first time I congigure online that router work out very well.I had this problem after I log into the website http://192.168.1.1 .Thank you very much for your helping
By the way :My router: Linksys wireless B
Model : BEFW11S4 ver.4
As requested in the OP of this post, please create a new thread describing your problem.

Please make sure you include the information requested in the 3rd sticky. Also, please describe the configuration issue your are having as it appears you can logon to the router

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Since ellory mentioned WPA, i thought mentioning Winsnort might also be a good idea. What is WinSnort?

WinSnort monitors packets on the network wire and attempts to discover an intruder by matching the attack pattern to a database of known attack patterns. A typical example is looking for a large number of TCP connection requests (SYN) to many different ports on a target machine, thus discovering if someone is attempting a TCP port scan. A network intrusion detection system sniffs network traffic, by promiscuously watching all network traffic.

For all the naive folks out there who think WiFi is "secure"....LOL....Time to learn the truth. Anyone with the right hardware and a few hours can HACK YOUR CONNECTION & gain access to your PC.

Don't let it happen. Learn how to protect yourself.

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