Every time a new release of windows comes out, it has usually been a good idea to wait for some bugs to get fixed before installing the new version. Perhaps even to wait for the first service pack. However, windows 7 has been getting good reviews. My wife will get a free upgrade for her new laptop. Should we install it right away or, like in the past, wait for the bugs to get worked out?
I've been using Windows 7 release candidate on my Eee PC for the last few months. No major issues. Much better experience than Vista when it first came out. Without any aditional drivers, I was able to use the after market touch screen.
Hard drive are cheap these days. If you are unsure, buy another drive and install 7. This way, you can go back without too much work.
vijay2977 said: ?? How did you install it already? I thought its only getting released on Oct, 22nd. That's the release date for the retail and OEM channels. However, MS made it available to members of some of its various partner programs for at least a month now.
I've used it on a ton of different platforms, and can't say that I've really seen a single problem. It loads easily, finds the correct drivers, and pretty much works well right off the bat. I wouldn't wait at all on this one.
airjordan12078
New Member
posted: Oct. 18, 2009 @ 7:32a
Install it, I have been using Windows 7 for over a year now on my business laptop, as well as my home laptop. I have a Technet Subscription. I work for a IT company and highly recommend it. In my opinion this is what Vista should have been, its stable, not a resource hog, and it actually works! Start up times are much faster, as well as waking for sleep. Installing a fresh copy is very easy, the great thing is that once 7 is installed you no longer have to got to you manufacturers website and download drivers, 7 actually get the right drivers for your system and I was up and running in under 32 min (i timed it). I'm currently running both Ultimate and Enterprise 64-bit with 4g of ram. There is no going back!
I bought lots of windows software when it first came out & then there is that big stream of updates.
Like I got XP, yesterday I was going to use my original XP disk on my computer; but there have been so many updates, like SP2, since it came out that I didn't want to use it cause I thought it was out of date.
handyguy said: Like I got XP, yesterday I was going to use my original XP disk on my computer; but there have been so many updates, like SP2, since it came out that I didn't want to use it cause I thought it was out of date.You can certainly install and use XP. You just need to rollup to SP3 and then apply the remaining patches
android2007
Happy Member
posted: Oct. 26, 2009 @ 8:50p
jangell2 said: Every time a new release of windows comes out, it has usually been a good idea to wait for some bugs to get fixed before installing the new version. Perhaps even to wait for the first service pack. However, windows 7 has been getting good reviews. My wife will get a free upgrade for her new laptop. Should we install it right away or, like in the past, wait for the bugs to get worked out?
Screw Microsoft, Windows
Install LINUX
jayK
Senior Member - JayK
posted: Oct. 26, 2009 @ 9:58p
So for those who have installed 7...what specific value does it add over XP? XP is more than fast enough on my laptop and I haven't had any stability issues. I've also had no issues with Vista on my desktop (it came preinstalled).
I'll install 7 on a spare machine to play with but my laptop has vista home premium, my desktops have XP Pro and I see no need to upgrade any of them at this time.
jolma
Senior Member
posted: Oct. 27, 2009 @ 11:47a
If you have a 64-bit capable quad-core machine, XP is really "wasting" quite a bit of its power and you should see better performance with Windows 7 in heavy multitasking or in some heavy processing tasks. But let's disregard that since most people really don't need as much CPU power as they have.
Windows 7 is meant to be more secure than XP. Processor features that prevent one application from writing in the space of another are enforced more often, and users run with less administrator privileges than XP usually did. If you are already running as a limited user on XP (which has some drawbacks, some software won't work that way and many settings can only be changed by switching users and logging in as admin), then you are already quite secure, and if you know enough not to download "free screensavers" and keep software up to date, then upgrading from XP is probably not needed.
But very few users run as limited user in XP. If you are running as administrator, there is a real risk of getting malware that would be reduced by getting Windows 7. With good habits, and the available free tools, the risk is not enormous, but it does exist. Some viruses are subtle enough that you or your antivirus software may not notice them for weeks, so if you only keep one weekly backup, your backup may be infected too before you notice the problem.
Also, the Media Center features of Windows 7 are nice. If you have your computer hooked up to a TV or a big enough screen to watch movies or TV on it, and certainly if you have a tuner card, the improved Media Center alone may be enough reason to upgrade.
jolma said: If you have a 64-bit capable quad-core machine, XP is really "wasting" quite a bit of its power and you should see better performance with Windows 7 in heavy multitasking or in some heavy processing tasks. XP can take advantage of multi-core processors just fine, and the advantage of running a 64-bit Windows is currently undermined by many major applications being 32-bit only.
If you are already running as a limited user on XP (which has some drawbacks, some software won't work that way and many settings can only be changed by switching users and logging in as admin) There are workarounds for this, the most notable being the program SuRun: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/surun.html
Most of the security advancements of Windows 7 are in it's UAC, which many people end up disabling.
jayK
Senior Member - JayK
posted: Oct. 27, 2009 @ 1:41p
marsilies said: Most of the security advancements of Windows 7 are in it's UAC, which many people end up disabling.Exactly. UAC popped up so often on my Vista box that I ended up disabling it. Even if it remains enabled, users end up becoming trained to just hit OK.
jayK said: Exactly. UAC popped up so often on my Vista box that I ended up disabling it. Even if it remains enabled, users end up becoming trained to just hit OK. I believe MS has tweaked UAC with each Vista service pack and with Windows 7 so that the prompts are much less common.
marsilies said: jayK said: Exactly. UAC popped up so often on my Vista box that I ended up disabling it. Even if it remains enabled, users end up becoming trained to just hit OK. I believe MS has tweaked UAC with each Vista service pack and with Windows 7 so that the prompts are much less common.Hoho!
I was at the W7 demo on Monday and the guy says 'Ok this will NOT cause a UAC question because MS fixed that'. He clicks something, and the UAC comes up. We all laughed.
W7 Updates
Bitlocker to encrypt files.
W98 Compatibility mode
4 Level UAC instead of a 2 level.
A TON of updates that only apply if you are running Win2008RC2 * if you are connected to a Domain remotely the Admin can take over your computer completely (Opening new ways to hack into people who are thinking they are getting free wifi) and if you copy a bitlocker document over to your PC and try to put it on a USB stick, it will bitlock the WHOLE USB stick.
* Finally if you request a document on your network server, it will also do a (what I think of as a torrent search) of all computers that have recently downloaded this document and share it you.
Well at least I have a free copy of W7 Ultimate to show for my 4 hours. The W7 guy was a major bore but the W2008RC2 guy was pretty interesting (I didn't get into the Exchange one).
jayK
Senior Member - JayK
posted: Oct. 28, 2009 @ 11:41p
So I decided to take the W7 plunge after doing some research and finding that W7 improves gaming performance over Vista. So I purchase my $30 student upgrade license and run the installer...it hangs on "completing installation". I do some more research and manually add some of the drivers, and it's still hanging on "completing installation".
jayK said: So I decided to take the W7 plunge after doing some research and finding that W7 improves gaming performance over Vista. So I purchase my $30 student upgrade license and run the installer...it hangs on "completing installation". I do some more research and manually add some of the drivers, and it's still hanging on "completing installation". Try unplugging all your USB devices.
jayK
Senior Member - JayK
posted: Oct. 29, 2009 @ 12:06a
marsilies said: jayK said: So I decided to take the W7 plunge after doing some research and finding that W7 improves gaming performance over Vista. So I purchase my $30 student upgrade license and run the installer...it hangs on "completing installation". I do some more research and manually add some of the drivers, and it's still hanging on "completing installation". Try unplugging all your USB devices.Already tried that. Now the "rollback" option restarts before it can complete the rollback, so I'm stuck in an infinite loop.
I have no Vista media, so I broke out an old XP CD and I'm currently in the process of installing XP to get my PC working again. WTG Microsoft.
UPDATE: My PC doesn't recognize XP, it still tries to boot into 7. At this point I'm about ready to replace my desktop PC with an iMac.
android2007 said: jangell2 said: Every time a new release of windows comes out, it has usually been a good idea to wait for some bugs to get fixed before installing the new version. Perhaps even to wait for the first service pack. However, windows 7 has been getting good reviews. My wife will get a free upgrade for her new laptop. Should we install it right away or, like in the past, wait for the bugs to get worked out?
Screw Microsoft, Windows
Install LINUX I am a Linux user, and I like Linux. But this comment doesn't help OP at all.
jayK said: I have no Vista media, so I broke out an old XP CD and I'm currently in the process of installing XP to get my PC working again. WTG Microsoft. People have found workarounds for installing Windows 7 Upgrade on a formatting drive: http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2009/10/23/...
You may want to try formatting the drive and installing Windows 7 new.
jayK
Senior Member - JayK
posted: Oct. 29, 2009 @ 9:54a
marsilies said: jayK said: I have no Vista media, so I broke out an old XP CD and I'm currently in the process of installing XP to get my PC working again. WTG Microsoft. People have found workarounds for installing Windows 7 Upgrade on a formatting drive: http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2009/10/23/...
You may want to try formatting the drive and installing Windows 7 new.I'm planning on picking up a new 1TB hard drive today as well as a retail Win7 box. Hopefully I'll be able to install Win7 on the new drive using my student upgrade key, then I'll return Win7.
jayK
Senior Member - JayK
posted: Oct. 29, 2009 @ 4:27p
The install on the new drive worked, so far so good. I was also able to return Win7 to Costco without any trouble (of course I didn't use the key from the retail box, just the media).
Quick question: how do you get rid of the search box on the Start Menu so you can open programs directly by typing the first letter of the program name?
jayK said: Hopefully I'll be able to install Win7 on the new drive using my student upgrade key, then I'll return Win7. I know you already did this, but MS starting offering direct ISO downloads for those with student keys after the initial difficulties:
You may want to download the ISOs and burn them to disc anyway, just in case you have issues later, you'll have a copy.
jayK
Senior Member - JayK
posted: Oct. 30, 2009 @ 2:36p
marsilies said: jayK said: Hopefully I'll be able to install Win7 on the new drive using my student upgrade key, then I'll return Win7. I know you already did this, but MS starting offering direct ISO downloads for those with student keys after the initial difficulties:
You may want to download the ISOs and burn them to disc anyway, just in case you have issues later, you'll have a copy.That's good to know...unfortunately I already ordered backup media when I bought the student key (it was $13 additional).
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