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I opened a penalty free CD tonight @ 2.5% APY in order to get in before any rate changes. I'm guessing that even though the ACH funding hasn't gone through I'll still get the 2.5% since that was the rate tonight?


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I just opened 3 no-penalty CD's tonight (actually 5 minutes ago) by calling their customer service number (1-877-247-ALLY). Luckily, I had all the cash sitting in my Ally Bank savings account. The CSR assured me that the rate was locked in at 2.47% (2.50% APY) for all 3 CD's. I also set them up to deposit back into the savings account at maturity. I just logged into my ally accounts page, and voila, there they are!


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scanchain said:mrvirgo said:When I opened my 3 no fault CDs on Tuesday, the rep said they would start to earn interest on the day they were funded. They were indeed funded today, Thursday. However, it can't hurt to call and see if there's a way to still open and fund a CD. Ally normally has changed its rates on Fridays.
I opened two no fault CDs when it first started 2 weeks ago. This morning, I opened another. I will keep my fingers crossed to see if I can get the higher rate.

Just saw that my no penalty CD was funded and the APY is 2.3% instead of the 2.5%. Missed it by 1 day ...


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A few pages ago, I wrote:

I think the no-penalty CD is quite attractive.

At 2.5%, it is a good second alternative to Alliant's savings account (same 2.5% APY). If rates continue to fall (Alliant has been dropping 0.25% for each of the past two or three months), I can at least keep the 2.5% rate for the next 9 months. If rates go up, I can pull out the money very quickly.

Ally could also be in a bind with the no-penalty CD. If they raise the rate, they can be sure to see an exodus of the existing 2.5% CD to lock into the higher rate. So they would probably be less reluctant to raise the rate than to lower it.

I think that at 2.5% APY, they have miss-priced it on the high side.

The APY of my no-penalty CD funded on 6/5/09 is 2.3%. This is a drop from the initial 2.5%.


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pcassell said:Yeah looks like I got in @ 2.3% even though it said 2.5% earlier. Oh well, still good.

Give them a call! I had this happen to me back in january when I opened a new CD on a thursday and the rates changed the next day. I called, and within a few business days they corrected the rate back to the original rate that was applicable when the account was opened.

Message edited by: Savemeister on 2009-06-05 07:20:51 CDT
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Not really. As far as I remember, Ally's policy has always been that the date the account gets funded is the date the interest rate takes effect.


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This may be interesting... I got in a bit late last night and read about the rate change. So, around 11.30 pm CDT I applied for another 1 yr CD at 2.8%. (I already have a savings acct at Ally, and a 1 yr CD at 2.8%.)

Throughout the online application, the displayed rate was 2.8%. Only after the CD was funded (from my Ally savings acct) and finalized did I get an indication that the rate on my CD was 2.49%. I double-checked their website, and they were still advertising 2.8%. At no point in the application process was there a notice that the rate may be lower than 2.8%.

So I called and explained the situation. The CSR was surprised at what had happened -- apparently I hit the site right in the middle of their changes. She wrote down all the info and passed it along to another department. I am supposed to hear from them in 3-5 business days.

As of now, my newest Ally CD shows a funding date of 6/5 and a rate of 2.49%, but perhaps I can get it reset back to the old rate. Although, given the interest rate environment nowadays, 2.49% still ain't bad.


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I was hoping the 2.8% rate on regular CDs would last 11 more days when my CD rolls over

At least I had sense enough to put all the rest into no-penalties yesterday. Who knows, inflation may kick-in in a few months. And I'm completely liquid in case I want to switch to Alliant. Prolly won't. I doubt they will be any better. And I feel loyality to GMAC since they've have been so good for so long.


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scanchain said:scanchain said:mrvirgo said:When I opened my 3 no fault CDs on Tuesday, the rep said they would start to earn interest on the day they were funded. They were indeed funded today, Thursday. However, it can't hurt to call and see if there's a way to still open and fund a CD. Ally normally has changed its rates on Fridays.
I opened two no fault CDs when it first started 2 weeks ago. This morning, I opened another. I will keep my fingers crossed to see if I can get the higher rate.

Just saw that my no penalty CD was funded and the APY is 2.3% instead of the 2.5%. Missed it by 1 day ...

I just received a secure email from Ally. It appears that they are going to give me the 2.5% APY for the no-penalty CD. I funded using ACH.

By the way, the CD funding schedule using ACH pull is typical of the former GMAC's money transfer timeline : if you submit a pull on Thursday, the CD gets funded on Friday but money only leaves the external bank the following Monday.


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oopsz said:I don't think they've mis-priced it- GMAC/Ally needs capital and this is an attractive way to inject some. They've matched the high savings account rate with a slightly more captive product making it more attractive for investment. If you start with the assumption that rates are going to decrease steadily over the next nine months, then this is a smart way for Ally to increase their deposit base and it's a smart way for chasers to lock in a high(ish) rate

Actually, if they drop the CD rate accordingly (ie, if the high rate next month is 2.25% and Ally reprices their CD at that rate), this will keep on attracting capital. People who got in this month will congratulate themselves and people who get in next month will be happy to have that month's high rate locked in.

The more I think about it, the more I think it's a compelling product for rate chasers and a smart product for Ally.

I'm quoting myself because I think this is going to dictate future rates.

Looking around, the no penalty CD still beats the high liquid rate at alliant and is very competitive with other CDs, liquid or not. I'm going to bet the ally no penalty CD is going to closely match high online savings rates.


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I also funded using ACH.

I received a secure email informing me that I wouldn't get the 2.5%

"Thank you for choosing ALLY Bank. I do apologize for the inconvenience, however when you process an account on-line there are disclosure that have to be agreed to before the application process can begin.

In these disclosures is a rate disclosure which reads that our rates are subject to change daily and the rate you receive is based on when the account has been funded. These disclosures are placed to let you know that we cannot guarantee a specific rate for an account. Again I do apologize for the inconvenience this has caused you."


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scanchain said:scanchain said:scanchain said:mrvirgo said:When I opened my 3 no fault CDs on Tuesday, the rep said they would start to earn interest on the day they were funded. They were indeed funded today, Thursday. However, it can't hurt to call and see if there's a way to still open and fund a CD. Ally normally has changed its rates on Fridays.
I opened two no fault CDs when it first started 2 weeks ago. This morning, I opened another. I will keep my fingers crossed to see if I can get the higher rate.

Just saw that my no penalty CD was funded and the APY is 2.3% instead of the 2.5%. Missed it by 1 day ...

I just received a secure email from Ally. It appears that they are going to give me the 2.5% APY for the no-penalty CD. I funded using ACH.

By the way, the CD funding schedule using ACH pull is typical of the former GMAC's money transfer timeline : if you submit a pull on Thursday, the CD gets funded on Friday but money only leaves the external bank the following Monday.

I had a No Penalty cd that I started a couple of days before which gave me an error message during the creation process. They sent it to a review department and I got a call back this morning stating that they would honor the previous cd rate. I'm impressed that they are trying to do the right thing when changing rates. The FDIC arm twisting is BS.

If you had an in process CD request that was held up for an exceptional reason, it might pay to give them a call and ask, they will probably try to do the reasonable thing.


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I just tried calling in to see if they would honor the 2.5% APY no-fee CD that I opened on Wednesday 6/3 and got funded by ACH on 6/5 (the day the rate changed). Again, I was told that they wouldn't honor the rate and that if I was unhappy, i should call back next week to close the account.

I don't know how you guys are getting them to honor the rate.


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Just a quick positive Ally story - opened a 9 month no penalty CD a few weeks ago at the 2.5% rate. CD failed to fund because I made a mistake in the account number from which the funds should be pulled. Called today to give correct account info and after speaking w/ a supervisor CSR confirmed they would still give me the 2.5% even though current rate is 2.3%. Simple gesture, but good customer service, particularly since it was totally my error.


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Blieb said:I've been trying to open my Ally account for the better part of 3 weeks now.

1) Filled out forms online, asks for driver's license to be faxed in. I did it 1 hour later.
2) Called the next day to ask how long ... guy said 1-2 business days to GET it ... and 3-5 to process.
3) More than a week goes by, I try to login and HA! I get in with the U/P I registered with.
4) I setup a link account ... doesn't say when they'll send it.
5) I see after clicking around 3-5 business days.
6) About a week later I get a welcome package with signature cards
7) Then I get a welcome email.
8) Still no link deposits ... can't fund the account ...

Guy on the phone was nice, but opening process has been piss poor. Terrible communications ...

same isues here, it took 2 weeks for account to open but they did lock the rate-after a little argument


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Online savings account rate cut(06/19/2009)

Was: 2.05% > 2.00% APY

Most CD rates also down.

Message edited by: Savemeister on 2009-06-19 07:40:54 CDT
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oopsz said:No penalty CD down from 2.3% to 2.15%

That .15% is a big difference for their most compelling product. If it doesn't keep pace with online savings/money market accounts no one will be willing to lock up their money.
Like ShakuniMama pointed out, the no penalty part means it's not locked up. What is locked is your rate, for up to 9 months, depending on whether or not you withdraw the money before maturity or not.


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Well, the other day I got a call from Ally Bank asking about my thoughts about the bank. I had recently transferred a substantial sum of down payment money into a No Penalty CD (so that I don't get tempted to dump it into the stock market, Vegas, or something equally stupid), but apparently that amount was large enough to make me a high roller. My major concerns were the lowering of rates (she was aware of the ABA letter, and grudigingly agreed that they were lowering rates after the ABA letter came out) and creating some sort of checking account with unlimited transactions that would pay the same rate as Electric Orange (1+%), with free checks, like the current MMA. Other than that, I said I was satisfied with the transfer time between my bank and theirs, the web site interface was acceptable, and the service was good.


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cclyde said:oopsz said:No penalty CD down from 2.3% to 2.15%

That .15% is a big difference for their most compelling product. If it doesn't keep pace with online savings/money market accounts no one will be willing to lock up their money.
Like ShakuniMama pointed out, the no penalty part means it's not locked up. What is locked is your rate, for up to 9 months, depending on whether or not you withdraw the money before maturity or not.

It's surprising the no-penalty CD pays more than the savings account, since it is always at least as good. If rates fall then it is better, and if they rise then you can drop out of it and switch.


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titan01 said:six days for check in the mail or 6 days to get money transfered to another ally account?
They told me 3-5 business days to transfer to an external account, 2-3 business days for an Ally account. My rep said it's a couple of days to process the CD cancellation, then another couple of days to process an ACH request (which you skip if you transfer to an Ally account).

I went ahead and canceled my CD today, since I may need the money next Friday. I imagine this will have me losing interest over the weekend, but if I canceled on Monday and they really did take 5 days, I'd be out of luck.

Well, the 2.5% rate I had wasn't that much better than I could get by using the money to pay off my 2.23% HELOC anyway...


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