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Priceline


    A great, straightforward and simple introduction to successful Priceline bidding is this 2003 article from the Washington Post by Michael Shapiro.

    About.com has a good, clear explanation of how free re-bids work. That's probably the single most important 'trick' to learn.

    The best uber resource for informed Priceline bidding is Bidding For Travel.com. Some users are unhappy with the level of moderation there, but it is indispensable for the lists of hotels by zone and quality level and the tremendous amount of successful and unsuccessful bids that have been posted. Their Hotel FAQ is also important reading to understand how to get the hotel(s) you want in the right location and at the best price. Furthermore, their discussion boards contain really interesting tips such as advanced rebidding techniques that increase your free re-bids beyond those conventionally recognized.

    An alternative to Biddingfortravel.com is BetterBidding.com which is newer and not quite as extensive. It does cover Hotwire as well as Priceline, so adds some unique value (see below).

    How to earn miles for your Priceline booking: If you bid through eBay's travel portal, you earn 1500 eBay Anything Points. This FatWallet Thread shows that through June 30, 2004 you can convert those points into just over 1500 American Airlines miles -- three times as many miles as most hotels award on traditional bookings.


Hotwire

    Hotwire doesn't seem to provide deals quite as good as Priceline, at least in my experience. That's probably because hotels set rates they offer Hotwire and then Hotwire offers those hotels plus a markup. Their markup is greater than Priceline's booking fee. However, it's a good idea to check what's available on Hotwire before bidding on Priceline (so you don't overbid) and because you can figure out what hotels specifically are on offer in many cases easier than with Priceline, especially if you check BetterBidding.com which maintains Hotwire hotel lists. (Hotwire lists a quality level and amenities for each property which can be used to decipher that hotel's identity.)


Traditional Booking Methods


    SideStep is a downloadable tool which detects when you're on a travel site and takes the information you've entered, sends it out to different hotel search engines, and brings back prices. It's a great quick way to compare options.

    TravelAxe is another downloadable tool, much more powerful than SideStep. It's probably the ultimate hotel booking device -- it goes out to the different travel portals, pulls results for a huge number of hotels, and shows a comparison of rates in a simple grid. Indispensable.

    Hotel Reservation Service often offers the best price on rooms.

    QuickBook is a consolidator which is useful in some cities, often beating the best price elsewhere.

    Once you've settled on a hotel, check the rate on the hotel's website. Many chains don't give points or frequent guest benefits to people who book through other channels, so if the price is the same book through the hotel directly. If the hotel's price is higher, check out their website's "Best Rate Guarantee" -- someone (maybe I'll add this later) needs to write a FAQ on hotel best rate guarantees because some are easy to work with and others are sketchy. But they all hold out the promise both of matching rates and giving you something extra.


How to Decide Which Hotel to Book


    Obviously there's proximity to events or attractions you're planning. And there are features or amenities offered by the property.

    Don't believe 'star ratings' or at least recognize that some ratings are more reliable than others. Hotels.com used to allow properties to "self rate" meaning that a hotel would decide how many stars it got! Now they at least do some checking and independent verification. Expedia's star ratings are notoriously unreliable. AAA and Mobil guides are far better, but even there the guides don't visit each property regularly.

    When considering a property, search for reviews. TripAdvisor.com is a good source of hotel reviews. Just recognize that different people have different experiences and standards, so they may be set off by things that wouldn't bother you one bit. For instance, resorts have expensive food. Pretend you're eating out at a nice restaurant in Manhattan at every meal. For folks who don't expect that, they're likely to write a negative review. The best approach is to read alot of reviews and look for common themes across several writeups.

    BetterBidding has hotel reviews and so does Epinions and Biddingfortravel.com.


Miscellaneous


    You can always get free lodging by sleeping in the airport.

    Make sure that when you've booked a room through a conventional channel, that you join that hotel chain's loyalty program. First you'll earn points (towards hotel stays) or miles in your favorite airline program. Plus members of a hotel's loyalty program often get preferred treatment such as room upgrades.

    Check out Webflyer's searchable database of hotel bonus promotions some of which require advanced registration. No reason to miss out on bonus points for a stay you're already making!


I'd love comments/feedback/additions/modifications! Let 'er rip!

Message edited by: gleff on 05/09/2004 17:29:20
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Intercontinental/Priority Club/Holiday Inn: $20 BB Gift Card for 2 night stay
Marriott: Rate code XML, or NPR to see all hidden rates (read descriptions to see if ID or certificates are needed, though.)
Starwood (Sheraton, Westin): SET 326782 (35% off rack, no deposit required, subject to availability)


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Message edited by: JohnnyVo on 2008-08-16 17:33:01 CDT
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I've come out ahead with Hotwire on hotel deals. Sucks that you don't know exactly what hotel you get until you pay, but mine was about 25-30% cheaper when I went back and checked the prices on Orbitz, Hotels.com etc

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Great post,OP.
I have used biddingfortravel.com for Priceline hotels and have never been disappointed.
Recently attended a wedding in Indianapolis,In and the wedding party rate was $79.per night,Entertainment rate$55,Priceline$31.+fee.
Stayed at a Denver Marriott for $30.a night (+fee) and they put us on the concierge floor.
I thank biddingfortravel.com for my good experiences.

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Nice post, the only problem I have is that you didn't put in what most people need to know - that the best deals are most often found on the hotels' official websites.

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Very nice and extensive post OP!

I too have had good luck with biddingfortravel & Prielin*.

I'm always looking for better resourses though!

Thanks again,

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DrummerJoe said:Nice post, the only problem I have is that you didn't put in what most people need to know - that the best deals are most often found on the hotels' official websites.

That's sometimes true.

Another issue is that sometimes the best deals are found calling the hotel directly. For instance, one of the best value for $$$ properties at LAX is the Four Points. Reasonably priced, good rooms, good service. Their "Park & Fly" rates aren't available on the Starwood website, but if you need a week's parking or even two they are far better deals than booking a room and paying a parking lot. (The second full week can often be had for only a marginal $10).

So actually the answer is always try the hotel website and even call the property and inquire about special rates that may not be online.

(Another rate at that Four Points is a '24 hour rate' meaning you check in any time and have the room for 24 hours, perfect for flights coming in from the Pacific at 6 or 7 am...)

I'll wait for a few more good comments and update . . .

Message edited by: gleff on 05/10/2004 12:47:13
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That "sleeping in the airport" link is HILARIOUS!! Thanks for the awesome post!

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I'd never do it, but apparently lots of folks do sleep in airports during mileage runs to keep the cost per mile down - especially if they're arriving in a city at, say, midnight or 2am and departing at 6am on the next flight back . . .

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Message edited by: sloppy1 on 2004-07-13 10:40:32
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Sleeping in the airport? Been there, done that. And that URL captures it, LOL!

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Ed Perkins: Four Steps to Finding the Lowest Hotel Rates. Link.

Over the last few years, some of the world's biggest hotel chains have promised that their own sites will always display the lowest available rates—meaning that third-party discount sites will not undercut those rates. The current list includes Choice (Clarion, Comfort Inns/Suites, Econo Lodge, Quality Inns, Rodeway, and Sleep Inn), Hilton (Conrad, Doubletree, Embassy Suites, Hampton Inn, Hilton, and Homewood Suites), InterContinental (Crowne Plaza, Holiday Inn, InterContinental, and Staybridge Suites), Marriott (Marriott, Fairfield Inn, and Renaissance), and Starwood (Four Points, Luxury Collection, Sheraton, St. Regis, W Hotels, and Westin).

Marriott's guarantee applies no matter how you reserve your room—online or by phone—while the others' guarantees apply only to online sites. And, for all chains, the guarantee applies only to sites that openly identify the hotels they're selling: Individual hotels are still free to sign up with Hotwire and Priceline, the two big "opaque" sites that don't identify a hotel until you've made a non-cancelable prepayment.

Are the "best rate" promises working? As near as I can tell, they are. I checked out several big-chain hotels and found no cases where a third-party site undercut the chains' own sites. I even found the same thing with a few independent hotels. Given that conclusion, here's my suggested approach in four steps:

Start with one or more third-party sites. Unless you're set on a specific hotel or hotel chain, the third-party sites give you an overview of hotels from all chains you might consider. Most of the online hotel agencies allow you to sort hotels by price, star rating (their own, of course), and proximity to a given street address or major visitor center. They also provide enough of a description to let you determine if you'd be satisfied.

Expedia, HotelKingdom, Hotels.com, Orbitz, Quikbook, and Travelocity are all good places to start. Travelaxe sorts a bunch of online sites and presents the results on a single page. BookingBuddy.com lets you search a handful of sites without having to re-enter your locations and dates each time. If you're heading for one of a handful of big U.S. cities, you might also check the sites that specialize in a single city or just a few cities. Overseas, check a few local specialists such as Asia-Hotels.com and AsiaTravel.com for Asia, or British Hotel Reservation Centre and LateRooms.com for Europe and the U.K. Identify one or more hotels that look like what you want and the best price you can find for your specific dates.

Next, see if the hotel's own site (or its chain's site) is matching the best available third-party deal. If so, buy from the hotel's own site: Chances are, the cancellation requirements will be a bit less stringent.

If the hotel or chain site doesn't do as well as the third-party site, go back to the best third-party site and make your deal. Note that many of them will add a $5 to $10 "service" charge to the displayed rate.

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I haven't tried it yet, but for "group bookings" / multiple rooms Hotel Planner looks promising. Anyone who tries it might report back on their results.

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I haven't had good results with HotelPlanner, their rates seem to be similar to what Expedia and Orbitz offer.

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I use the gov't rate when I travel for work, and they almost never want to see my gov't ID. If the gov't rate is available it is sometimes WAAAAY cheaper than what they otherwise offer. An example is the Don Cesar hotel in St Pete Beach, FL. The 4 star hotel starts at about 300 a night, but the gov't rate is 109. Radisson in Santa Monica is more typical, with a AAA rate of 179. Govt rate is 125. When I travel for leisure, I always ask for the govt rate. Not always the lowest, but worth asking.

Message edited by: HawkeyeNFO on 06/11/2004 09:53:12
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I can't find the thread but people had said that it's cheaper to book a room for 1 person, instead of 2. Has anyone had problems doing it this way?

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HawkeyeNFO said:I use the gov't rate when I travel for work, and they almost never want to see my gov't ID. If the gov't rate is available it is sometimes WAAAAY cheaper than what they otherwise offer. An example is the Don Cesar hotel in St Pete Beach, FL. The 4 star hotel starts at about 300 a night, but the gov't rate is 109. Radisson in Santa Monica is more typical, with a AAA rate of 179. Govt rate is 125. When I travel for leisure, I always ask for the govt rate. Not always the lowest, but worth asking.

Good to know if you're in a pinch! ...the Don Cesar is shown in the BFT hotel list - so you can get it on Priceline (there were too many Tampa's mixed in for me to find a rate quick. And the Radisson in Santa Monica, CA also shows up on the LA hotel list ~$60 +/- through Priceline.

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scrabbler said:I can't find the thread but people had said that it's cheaper to book a room for 1 person, instead of 2. Has anyone had problems doing it this way?This is rarely true in the US, often true in Europe where they actually pay attention sometimes. I rarely see a problem with extra people in a room in he US, in Europe you actually would need to be sneaky.