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Potentially an 'official' style thread, I'm tired of posting the deals I find into the most recent 'quick cruise question' thread. I'm not particularly knowledgeable, I've only taken one short cruise and have another booked, but I AM a little OCD, and might be able to offer up some useful information on cruise deal hunting, if not actual cruise advice.

This being a FatWallet guide to cruise searching, there are a few starting conditions: I'm normally talking about inside rates, except when an upgrade is free or available for a very good price - usually, inside cabins really are the best value. When I talk averages, I'm using current (4 Aug 2006) Carnival and Royal Caribbean prices for all their 7 night sailings for next May through October - a good mix of high and low seasons. The other lines are typically more expensive, so a $50pp/pn rate is a particularly good value on, say, Princess or Norweigan. I use per person rates, but they are only valid for each of two people sharing a stateroom. Sailing alone or with more than two people can change the price dramatically.


What is a good deal for a cruise?
Well, the average brochure cost of an inside cabin (no view) for a seven day cruise is about $1700 per person, or about $243 per person per night. Don't pay that. The average actual cost of those same cruises was about $700, or $100pp/pn. Anything less than that and you're doing better than an average 'deal' at a cruise discounter. I set my target rate at didYOUsearch's recommended rate: $50pp/pn, inclusive of taxes and port fees. Rates like that aren't too common, and are next to impossible for some itineraries, but they make for a good barometer of value. Davido is dead on, prices are very much a function of the season - prices are higher when kids are out of school. Being able to sail when the ships are slow to fill, and/or willing to sail more inexpensive itineraries makes it much easier to get a great deal, but there are good deals everywhere all year long if you keep your eyes open. Also, additional passenger rates can make or break a cruise deal - on some sailings, third and fourth passengers might add half what the first two passengers paid; while on others, it'd be the same or even cheaper to get them their own room. For families or friends willing to share a small sleeping space, low additional rates can cut the total cost of a cruise - sometimes making even peak-season sailings affordable.


What does a cruise include? or, How much will it end up costing me?
Most cruises include enough that you can go without spending a penny over the fare, taxes, and tips* - totalling $60pp/pn at the 'target rate.' Cruise fare includes your cabin (with housekeeping), free dining in a number of facilities (most lines offer free room service,) a selection of (all non-alcoholic) beverages, varying qualities of Vegas-style entertainment and comedy shows, many cruise-led activities, and transportation to whatever places the ship is headed, weather permitting. You will usually have to pay extra for tips*, soft drinks, alcoholic beverages ($5ish each, automatic 15% tip included,) dining in onboard specialty gourmet restaurants, spa or salon services, the casino and bingo, and any activities at the ports. As with room upgrades, you can spend as much or as little as you want - you decide what is worth the cost of indulging in.

Don't forget about transportation - airfare can add a lot to your total vacation cost. You have to fly in for some itineraries, but sailing out of a local port saves you airfare and some hassles. Even a cheap flight and hotel room for the night before (recommended) will cost $150 per person, which adds more than $20pp/pn over a 7 night cruise. That makes it less desirable to fly to short cruises, and I use it to justify spending more per night on the short cruises we like to take out of our local ports. They cost less just by being shorter, and they make for cheap credit towards loyalty programs. You will have to pay parking if you drive - it's $10-12 a day per car at my local ports in Florida.

*For the record, I pay the recommended gratuities (normally $10pp/pn), a little extra at the end to people I feel gave a little extra to us, and a couple singles for each room service delivery. They live on tips, even moreso than food service personnel in the US)


Resources:

General cruising information:
Recent FW Thread on cruising, lots of quick explanations and an especially valuable post by dani24
Another Thread where davido explains why you don't see much pricing difference between TAs until you contact them directly
Insure My Trip is a good consolidator of travel insurance - a VERY good idea to get, especially during storm seasons or if your trip includes a flight. I like the insurances that include payment for travel delay, late or missing baggage, and have decent medical allowances.
Cruise Critic has up-to-date cruise reviews and an active forum - the BEST place to find answers to general cruising questions.
You can also find lots of cruise pictures (of ships, rooms, public areas, menus, newsletters, you name it) by searching Google with the added term "site:webshots.com"

Finding the best cruise fare: (don't forget to count the taxes and fees!)
Vacations to Go - My first stop for finding inexpensive sailings to check on other sites - they have an awesome search process that even lets you search by type of cabin. They also have lists of deals with past passenger, senior, military and interline rates. Even better, their system lets you bookmark your common custom searches, like this link that lists all sailings out of my local ports that have oceanview rooms available for less than $300 per person. Note: I have to sort the list by date or price to see the full URL that links to that search.
Cruise 411 - Searches regular prices and many senior, resident, and past guest discounts. Lets you see actual taxes and fees at step 4, before you give them personal information.
CruiseQuick - I get a lot of errors and page not founds here, but they list the taxes for each cruise alongside the rate as soon as you search. Awesome! (thanks, davido!)
SmartCruiser - Seems to search all the specials, and includes what looks to be pretty good insurance on a lot of sailings - even on the cheap cruises with very little commission. (thanks, davido!)
Cruise Deals - Searches the same basic stuff, sometimes offers free extras like travel insurance or vacation certificates.
Crucon - I think their search is lousy, but they do have a list of their current best deals. They often offer token gifts (drink coupons, free wine bottle, fruit delivered to the cabin) for booking with them or having your carnival-direct booking transferred to them.
Cruise Vacation Outlet - Searches about the same, with the same basic extras.
Cruise Value Center - Sometimes has the lowest prices and free insurance or vacation certificates, but doesn't search past guest discounts. (thanks, davido!)
Homeport Cruises - Maintains a list of interline and military rates, some of which are phenomenal. It's easy to get a password to view the rates, check out the elegibility requirements here

After you've seen what a few sites are charging for your sailing, check out the cruise line's own site. Normally, this is fruitless, as TAs have more incentive to offer you deals, but I've had luck recently getting lower rates and upgrades on Carnival.com using the promotional codes DP7 (for past guests) and PR1 (a residency discount code.) If you don't qualify, or it's not valid on that sailing, you'll get a message that says that the code is invalid. If it works, you might see lower prices, upgrade deals, or both. The DP7 code gives free upgrades from 4A to 5A (with portholes) on a number of sailings. Sometimes, it says the 4As are being upgraded to a 4D (inside), but selecting the 4A room lets you choose a 5A room anyway.

Cruise Compete is my last stop - the site lets you request a quote for a sailing from a number of different. Make sure to include what price you want them to beat for what room type, if you are a past guest, and your state of residency - not all TA's go out of their way to see what you might qualify for. If you've already done the work anyway, you might as well tell them what you found (and the fare code if applicable.) Even if you've found rock bottom prices, you'll likely be offered some sort of extra amenity.


Posting Deals: If you find a cruise for less than $50pp/pn, post it even if you aren't going to do a stitch of research on it. Otherwise, use your better judgement - there are itineraries where $80pp/pn is a steal, $75pp/pn might be a great price for a holiday cruise, and locals might be thrilled to pay $65pp/pn for a three day weekend sailing next month. Below is the format I'll try to stick to (unless it's discovered I've left out important stuff) but there's no obligation for anyone else to use this format when posting deals. Remember you need the total cruise cost - both the fare and the taxes - to really compare prices. The discount description is important too - include restrictions like past guest, military, age or residence requirements, promotional codes or coupons, where the fare can be found, and any included 'extras.' If it's just a good fare you've happened upon, but haven't looked for any additional discounts, mention that too.

Length, Destination, Ship, Line
Departure Date & City, Return Date & City
Cabin Category, Price (Fare+Taxes), Cost Per Person Per Night
Third and Fourth Passenger Price, Cost Per Person Per Night
Discount Description and/or link

Remember, these are just the best prices so far - you should submit your own request at Cruise Compete to see if someone can cut the price or offer you any extras. Move fast - prices can and sometimes do change very quickly.

Message edited by: angelsou on 2006-08-08 08:54:52 CDT

Current Deals:

(none)
11-7-08 DP3, repeat cruiser code

Slightly Off Topic on cruise transfer:
Cruisers, if you need a transfer between airport and port; most of the time it will be cheaper if you rent a car for one way travel. This is a speedy, relax and comfortable way to travel. Avis allows this. Use Avis AWD C031529 discount code bookable on Avis.com. It dropped the rate from regular whooping $90 to $35 on a full size car. I use this code all the time, good discount, unlimited mileage, anyone can use, LDW $3000 is included. I booked a full size and I got a Linconln Town Car. Hey, you can even tour around the town since the rental is good for 24 hours. Once you get to the port or returned from the cruise, local Avis locations are with in 5 minute taix ride (less than $10).

Following are list of examples with Avis location code. Make sure you use AWD C031529 to get the proper discount and avoid high one way charge.
- Miami airport <-> Port Everglads (Fort Lauderdale)
MIA <-> PB8
- Fort Lauderdale airport <-> Port of Miami
FLL <-> M6I
- Orlando <-> Port Canaveral
MCO <-> P3F

Message edited by: TecJunkie on 2008-11-07 21:28:45 CST
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Good information. As a fellow cruise addict and a bargain hunter here are a few more bits of helpful information for cruise deal hunters.

- One of the biggest variables in determing price is "when". Prices can fluctuate greatly between sailings of the same ship to the same ports. Anytime school is out costs more is a general rule (summer and holiday weeks or spring break). If you cruise with kids this may not be as much of an option but if you have flexibility in your dates you can save more. Winter and hurriance season are the lowest prices.

- Decide what is important to you when choosing cabin levels = We book the least expensive rooms we can get find as we'd rather spend money on doing activities in ports. To some people it is important to have an outside or balcony room and do not mind paying hundreds of dollars more for it. Regardless of the room, the other shipboard food and activities are the same so look at what is important to you for the limited time you will spend in your cabins. Whenever possible book a guarantee cabin. This gives you a minimum quality level and a possible free upgrade.

- I strongly second cruisecritic for information and research. Research what you want to do in port and book them on your own to save money also.

- For doing price research I would also add to the list www.cruisequick.com and www.smartcruiser.com. and www.mycruisevalue.com.

- I also strongly endorse using Cruise Compete. You can usually save money doing this.

- When choosing a cruise look at itinerary, cruise line, and price. Don't choose based on just one factor or you may get a cheap cruise that goes to places you don't want to.

- Don't get in the thought process of being locked in to a specific cruise line only. The various lines are similar but have variations. Research on cruise critic to learn more. Be willing to try different cruise lines that you think might appeal to you and you'll have more flexibility in finding a good price.

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A little late, but here are some deals I've looked at recently:

5 night Bahamas trip on the Carnival's Fantasy
25 September 2006 Port Canaveral to 30 September 2006 Port Canaveral
Cat 4D Inside: $274.83 ($229 plus $45.83) => $55pp/pn
3/4 passenger rate $244.83($49pp/pn) for inside ($264.83($53pp/pn) for OV)
Past Guest Pricing via carnival.com - using fare code DP7

4 night Baja Mexico cruise on Royal Caribbean's Monarch of the Seas
15 Jan 2007 Los Angeles to 19 Jan 2007 Los Angeles
Cat Q Inside: $231.63 ($199 plus $32.63) => $58pp/pn
Cat I OV (obstructed): $261.63 => $65.50pp/pn
3/4 passenger rate (inside and outside) $241.63 => $60.50pp/pn
No requirements, price available via royalcaribbean.com. Haven't compared online.
***prices only slightly higher for the 8 January sailing, starting at $59.25pp/pn***

15 night Transatlantic cruise on Royal Caribbean's Legend of the Seas
1 Dec 2007 Barcelona, Spain to 16 Dec 2007 Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
Cat Q Inside: $748.97 ($699 plus $49.97) => $50pp/pn
3/4 passenger rate (inside and outside) $348.97 => $23.25pp/pn
No requirements, price available via royalcaribbean.com. Haven't compared online.
***similar deals available:
15 day Barcelona to Miami on Brilliance of the Seas on 2 Dec for $799+$76.96 => $58.50pp/pn ($25pp/pn for 3/4 passengers)
and 15 day Barcelona to Galveston on Voyager of the Seas on 8 Dec for $799+$70.01 => $58pp/pn ($24.50pp/pn for 3/4 passengers)

ADDED 8 August 2006:

AWESOME deal for single travellers
4 night Bahamas cruise on Carnival's Fantasy
24 Sep 2006 Port Canaveral to 28 Sep 2006 Port Canaveral
Cat 1A (guarantee!) Inside: $252.83 ($219 plus $33.83) => $63.25pp/pn for a single!
Residency requirements - Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and Arkansas - probably more, just check carnival or your favorite discounter. Non-residents sail for $297.83. Use PR1 code at carnival.com
***similar deals available: same pricing on 7 Sep and 21 Sep***
***also available on Sensation, $260.58 ($65pp/pn) for 1A guarantee on 27 Aug, 10 Sep, 17 Sep and 24 Sep.



I'm copying these to the quick summary, because they're current, but I'd like to see people offer up deals as posts, so folks can see what prices have been doing over time. I'll try to keep up with keeping only available deals in the quick summary.

Message edited by: angelsou on 2006-08-08 08:42:47 CDT
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angelsou said:A little late, but here are some deals I've looked at recently:

5 night Bahamas trip on the Carnival's Fantasy
25 September 2006 Port Canaveral to 30 September 2006 Port Canaveral
Cat 4D Inside: $274.83 ($229 plus $45.83) => $55pp/pn
3/4 passenger rate $244.83($49pp/pn) for inside ($264.83($53pp/pn) for OV)
Past Guest Pricing via carnival.com - use fare code DP7
***also a decent deal for inside or porthole rooms on the 11 September sailing - $60pp/pn***

4 night Baja Mexico cruise on Royal Caribbean's Monarch of the Seas
15 Jan 2007 Los Angeles to 19 Jan 2007 Los Angeles
Cat Q Inside: $231.63 ($199 plus $32.63) => $58pp/pn
Cat I OV (obstructed): $261.63 => $65.50pp/pn
3/4 passenger rate (inside and outside) $241.63 => $60.50pp/pn
No requirements for discount, available at these prices via royalcaribbean.com
***prices only slightly higher for the 8 January sailing, starting at $59.25pp/pn***


I'm copying these to the quick summary, because they're current, but I'd like to see people offer up deals as posts, so folks can see what prices have been doing over time. I'll try to keep up with keeping only available deals in the quick summary.


Are these deals any good? What is the normal price range for cruise trips?

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Ivanist, I rewrote the first post, it should be a little clearer.

Brochure prices for 7 night cruises average about $250 per person per night. The actual price of those cruises from a discounter averages about $100 per person per night, so you don't really want to pay any more than that. Basically, any cruise under $50 per person per night is a great deal if you can find reasonably priced transportation. Between $50 and $100 is sort of a grey area - for some itineraries/ships/seasons, $80pp/pn might be the best price available all year. For a 7 night Caribbean trip out of Miami in September, that'd be paying too much. The lower the nightly rate, the better the value. I think short cruises for less than $60pp/pn are great deals for folks who don't have to fly to get to the port. It's hard to find a better 4 night vacation for two for less than $500.

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Packed with excellent info for newbies on cruises like me! Thanks for your time and effort! I am looking to travel early part of next year!

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Great post. Thanks.

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Great deals on the 15 day cruises. I booked 2 of them today (the Legend and the Brilliance)...now I just need to decide which one to take, and which one to cancel.

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angelsou said: I set my target rate at didYOUsearch's recommended rate: $50pp/pn, inclusive of taxes and port fees.

an excellent target rate

NORWEGIAN DREAM 17 night Transatlantic London to Houston Sep 20.
OCEANVIEW $52.50 per night per person directly from NCL.com or possibly less through cruisecompete

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wow...52.50pp for OCEEANIEW is hot. not the best for land-lovers though

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This is turning out to be a GREAT thread, especially for those of us who live in port cities. Great job!!!

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Cruising in Sept out of NYC on NCL with my family of 4 (2 babies), for an 8 day cruise to caribbean (St Thomas/Tortola)/Bermuda for $1725 It's an inside cabin, but the TA managed to bump me up to deck 11 so I'm quite happy with that.

Was with vacationstogo.com

Using 35,000 credit card reward points for a $500 rebate after the cruise is over. For my cards reward points, this is the best 'bang for the buck'. This will be me 4th cruise and 4th time I used reward points for a rebate Kinf of like, cruise 3 times get the 4th one free *L*

Message edited by: FatherTed on 2006-08-11 13:10:58 CDT
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Mods - any way to get this as a sticky?

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This is great info as I plan to take my first cruise next summer, leaving right out of my city.
I just have one question though that I hope someone can answer. If I plan to cruise in Summer of 2007, when is the best time to book? I don't know how far out I should go to make sure I get a spot. I also want to take enough time to get a good price. The cruise I am thinking about leaves out of Norfolk and goes to Bermuda. Thanks!

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momgoingbroke said:This is great info as I plan to take my first cruise next summer, leaving right out of my city.
I just have one question though that I hope someone can answer. If I plan to cruise in Summer of 2007, when is the best time to book? I don't know how far out I should go to make sure I get a spot. I also want to take enough time to get a good price. The cruise I am thinking about leaves out of Norfolk and goes to Bermuda. Thanks!


I'd book it now. I always cruise with Royal Caribbean, and they will adjust the price if it goes down before final payment is made. Summertime cruises are usually among the most expensive, so booking earlier will get you a lower price. Cancellation policies (if booked directly with the cruise line, not a travel agent) are very liberal as well.

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I second that idea - if you need to sail a certain week, or peak season, it's probably best to book early. You have up until something like two months before sailing for a complete refund - and a good travel agent should be able to get your refunds, onboard credit, or upgrades if your sailing does decrease in price.

I'm going to sit down tonight and update the quick summary - I'll make sure to look for some Norfolk cruises. Don't count on anything like $550pp/pn rates, though - summer gets expensive!

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Great information angelsou! Thanks. Is there any secret to complementary upgrades? Time of day to check in etc.? I have hear several people say that they asked for an upgrade and got it. Any ideas?

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Great information, thanks. I would be very interested in seeing something with a Norfolk port. Closer to me. I would like to take a cruise next year.

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