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Going with the family (one 9-year-old and one grandmother, so 4 total)to St. Louis during April Spring Break (4/6-15). Hoping to make St. Louis to Memphis to Nashville and back triangle in 8 days. We already have the airline tickets, but being a FatWalleter I'm interested in any special tips for saving some bucks or any hidden attractions one might miss. We'll probably do the standard Arch, Graceland, Lorraine Motel & Grand Ol Opry. The Shiloh Civil War battlefield is something we'll do also and my Mom wants to see the Loretta Lynn Museum (it's on the way from Memphis to Nashville). But we're hoping to squeeze in some more things.

As for savings, I'll probably hit restaurant.com for the areas and see if anything is of interest (and passes muster with TripAdvisor, Yelp, etc.), plus I'll sign up for some hotel cards. I'll probably use a Travelocity-type site for the car rental and the lodging, unless you think booking directly is better. We do have AAA, so in a pinch that will work in a lot of circumstances. But is there any other angles I should be investigating.

I noticed the NRA convention is in St. Louis for the back-end of our trip so I might need to book the 4/14 stay early. But, in general, should I book hotels early or wait until closer. Same with car rentals for that matter. As you can probably tell, it's been awhile since I've been on a big trip so a tad rusty on these things.

Thanks for an advice.


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One of the great things about StL is many of the attractions are free. Our main park is Forest Park where the Zoo, Art Museum are located and the Science center is across the street. All free to get in. The Science center has a lot of hands on experiences to explain how things work. There is also an OmniMax theatre in there.


In Memphis, the Pink Palace sounds like a strip club but it is actually a museum which is quite fun -- it is the most-visited museum in all of TN. Not free though. They also have an IMAX theatre and a Planetarium on location.

The Memphis Zoo is also not free but one of the best zoos in the country (check online ratings). They have giant pandas and polar bears which are not typically seen in zoos. I have not been to the Zoo in St. Louis but I have heard great things about it -- your family may not be up for 2 zoos in 1 week!

There is another museum on Mud Island (downtown Memphis) which has various exhibits related to the Mississippi River. They also have a Monorail and Skybridge, plus kayaks and bikes you can rent.

You can also visit Shelby Farms (a huge park, free to enter and park), see the bison, enjoy a walk in the park, and rent a horse if you are up for it.


Also check out Grant's Farm in St. Louis - it's owned by Anheiser Busch, and is free to enter after a nominal parking fee (was $5). Each visitor (over 21) used to get 2 free beers in the courtyard.

Would make for a great day for the 8 year old year old! As well as the others. I've been there multiple times and would go back again in minute (long commute from NY now).

Never been to Memphis, but Nashville has a zoo that I remember being pretty good. Also check out the Gaylord Hotel, near the Grand Ol' Opry. If you don't have a Bass Pro Shop nearby, there is one in Nashville with lots of stuffed animals and live fish. We also like walking along the main street in the old downtown of Nashville. Tons of music coming out of the bars and browsing the shops. There used to be a ton of western-wear/boot shops that were always interesting.

Can't remember too much more, lived in So. Illinois about 10 years ago, and St. Louis and Nashville were our access to culture


Thanks. I had noticed the pandas at the Memphis zoo and the St. Louis one being free. I'll need to check out Grant's Farm. Mud Island sounded interesting but I don't think it opens until the day before we leave. Pink Palace looks interesting too, thanks.

One thing I was kind of interested in was a boat ride on the Mississippi. The paddleboats seem touristy, but I think the little one would like it. It seems both St. Louis and Memphis have them. Any suggestions on which one is better.

We have a Cabella's and a Scheel's here in Reno (and I thought at one time a Bass Pro was suppose to come in) so we are well-stocked on the stuffed animals (especially Cabella's).


I live within two hours of St. Louis and visited many times over the years. Last year, I finally took a riverboat ride. What a disappointment. The shores of the river around St. Louis are littered with abandoned businesses/factories so the shoreline (except for downtown St. Louis) was truly unattractive.

The cruises aren't expensive or long so you don't have much to lose if you choose to take one. At the time, I remembered only one operator for such cruises but maybe there are others. They did have the ability at the dock to sell you timed tickets for the ride to the top of the arch. Sometimes the lines for tickets at the arch itself are long so this was a nice convienence.

If the arch is crowded you may spend more time there than expected. You'll buy a timed ticket which gives you a time to line up. Even after lining up, you'll have a wait for the elevator pods to the top then you'll spend time at the top along with a wait for the ride down. While waiting at the base, watch the movie about the building of the arch - I always find that amazing.

The only complaint about the arch is that the windows at the top appear aren't as clear as they were intially. The top can get crowded so sometimes you have to wait to get to a window. Be prepared - the arch sways in the wind but I find that kinda cool (but have seen others freak out). Hope you have a clear day and can see the amazing views from the top.


Unlike almost any other great metropolitan zoo, admission to the St.Louis Zoological Gardens has always been free (although a few special exhibits and a train ride around the zoo do charge a small fee). Back in the days of "Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom" (I'm dating myself), the zoo director was Marlin Perkins. Link to STL Zoo. The zoo is located in Forest Park -- one of the largest city parks in the U.S. at ~1300 acres.

In addition to the zoo, Forest Park is home to the St. Louis Art Museum, the Science Center and Planetarium, the outdoor Muny Opera amphitheater, the Jewel Box greenhouse, Steinberg ice skating rink, the Boathouse (a restaurant and peddle-boat rental facility), a public golf course and the 1904 World's Fair Pavilion. If you foolishly try to take in all the sites in Forest Park in one day, you won't want to get out of bed the next morning. Link to Forest Park


no one has commented on the most important part of the journey

food

in st. louis you must go to pappys bbq. I went to st.louis weekly for work, and spent much time in memphis, and live in nashville. The best BBQ in the world in my opinion. ( i wept the first time i ate it).

Corkys has good bbq if you want to try some memphis style.

plan on spending an evening in downtown nashville on 2nd and broadway. Even if you aren't the bar hopping type, it is really a part of history you have to see.
if your mom wants to see loretta lynn, then she will love the opry.

dig around a little, and find the 50 percent off codes. (makes it about 25 bucks a ticket.) the venue is smaller than most movie theaters, and there is really not bad seat. buy them early (like tomorrow) in the cheapest section available.

one week in the spring and one in the fall all of grants farm is open. google and see if it fits your plans.

have fun.

wads


Just a quick note about the ride up the arch......do not go if you are claustrophobic. Went up several times when family visited and each time I felt like i was getting into a front load washer. It is certainly and amazing technological marvel - because the arch is curved, as the pod rides to the top, it is connected to pivot rod at the top. as you start to turn, the pod pivots straight up and down. It does this the entire ride to the top.

I agree about the windows at the top, they need to be replaced

The park under the arch is nice - and depending on when you go, there are fairs/festivals going on in the park. Fourth of the July weekend was a big one, with an air show (at least there were 10 years ago).

Can't comment about the river cruise, the only boats I remember were the casinos.

University City was always a favorite too. If you go there, and Fitz's Root Beer Bar is still there, have a homebrewed root beer for me.


Thanks, it sounds like Forest Park is a must do.

I've been in the Arch before and it was clear day, but not windy. If anything it was the egg pods that one goes up in that kind of bothered me a bit. Wife can be a little on the claustrophobic side so I'm hoping the little window in the egg will suffice. Didn't have time for the movies then, will have to see them this trip.

It seems like the Opry lists their shows about six weeks out, so I'm waiting to see who will be there (and the Ryland) that week. I'll Google the discount codes as it looks like tix can run up to $55.

Thanks on the BBQ tips. I was telling my nine-year-old he can actually try real, authentic Missouri and Memphis-style bbq on this trip. So I'll show him the Pappy's and Corky's menu. Thanks.

One thing food related that we noticed is Ted Drewes. I seem to remember that place's custard being on PBS's "The Ice Cream Show." Is it as good as it sounds? Also, speaking of those PBS shows, I think the sandwich one featured a "St. Paul" as a St. Louis specialty. Is that something worth trying (my Mom does like egg foo young)?

Thanks again for all the tips and advice. You guys have been great.


Thanks for the request...we too are going to St. Louis for spring break and I got a few new ideas (I've been twice).

I agree with Zoo and Fitz's Root Beer. We plan on exploring more of Forest Park due to this thread. We got a "SniqueAway" deal on a 4 star hotel called the Cheshire, which is near Forest Park.

I must say that you SHOULD "do" the Arch. There's nothing really like it anywhere else and I if you're not too claustrophobic or fearing heights, it's really a neat experience. If you have members who don't want to go up in the Arch, there's a museum type exhibit and film that part of your family can explore why the others go up the arch.

One site, though not cheap ($12 per person), the City Museum is a MUST for you with your child; 9 is the perfect age to explore. It's really mind-blowing and amazing! http://www.citymuseum.org/site/

We did the river cruise too, my sons were not overwhelmed...but it was a nice break from the hustle and bustle of a vacation.

One more suggestion: The Blue Owl bakery. It's a bit of trek (maybe 30 minutes?) drive from St. Louis, but they have a levee-high apple pie. (More like 8" high, but still!). Great for breakfast or lunch and the town has cool antique/craft stores throughout. http://www.theblueowl.com/


My favorites in St. Louis include the zoo and the Budweiser tours. Both were fantastic and well worth our time. Also, be sure to stop at Ted Drewes for some great ice cream!


+1 for the city museum. I know people from KC that make a point to go every year.


When visiting Memphis, you may want to stay in the Tunica resorts and casino area (Mississippi). Good and very very inexpensive rooms and restaurants (casinos' buffet style), just an easy 25 minutes drive from downtown Memphis.

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caramelito said:   When visiting Memphis, you may want to stay in the Tunica resorts and casino area (Mississippi). Good and very very inexpensive rooms and restaurants (casinos' buffet style), just an easy 25 minutes drive from downtown Memphis.
This is only true if your family does not mind the thick heavy smell of smoke on your clothing and hair. Even if you simply walk through the casino, you will stink of smoke for an hour afterwards...


wfay said:   caramelito said:   When visiting Memphis, you may want to stay in the Tunica resorts and casino area (Mississippi). Good and very very inexpensive rooms and restaurants (casinos' buffet style), just an easy 25 minutes drive from downtown Memphis.
This is only true if your family does not mind the thick heavy smell of smoke on your clothing and hair. Even if you simply walk through the casino, you will stink of smoke for an hour afterwards...

Sure, but this is only true if you want to gamble. In my last trip to Memphis I stayed at a Harrahs property for a 1/2 of the price of a similar hotel in Memphis (I think I pay less than $40 for a nice suite). Food was good and cheap, and didnt gamble at all. They usually have promotions for new visitors (like free buffets).


The City Museum does look good, so that goes on the itinerary.

Thanks for the Tunica tip. It's funny, Tunica's website says it's an easy 20 minute drive to Memphis, while Google Maps says 53! I'm in Reno, so I know what you mean about smelling like smoke. Even just breezing through the casino floor to get to a restaurant leaves your clothes smelling. If it's really less than a half-hour perhaps the savings would be worth it by going through a side door for check-in.


The Peabody Hotel in Memphis has ducks that do an entrance and exit march at 11a and 5p (confirm times - I'm going off memory). Seemed like lots of families with kids found it entertaining. You don't need to be staying at the hotel to pop in for the show.

Also, I'm a fan of Rendevous (bbq place) in downtown Memphis. It's not cheap, but it has great dry ribs.


anonguy said:   The City Museum does look good, so that goes on the itinerary.

Thanks for the Tunica tip. It's funny, Tunica's website says it's an easy 20 minute drive to Memphis, while Google Maps says 53! I'm in Reno, so I know what you mean about smelling like smoke. Even just breezing through the casino floor to get to a restaurant leaves your clothes smelling. If it's really less than a half-hour perhaps the savings would be worth it by going through a side door for check-in.

Book midweek for the lowest rates. Bally's Tunica is only $24.99 Sunday-Thursday during your dates, sure it is not the best place in Tunica, but safe and doable.

http://www.ballystunica.com/


anonguy said:   
Thanks for the Tunica tip. It's funny, Tunica's website says it's an easy 20 minute drive to Memphis, while Google Maps says 53!

The casinos are about 15 miles north of Tunica (the area is called Tunica Resorts). More likely an easy 25-30 minutes drive. Look the website for coupons and promotions (i.e. 2x1 buffets).


Have you been to the Bally's there? I noticed that price too, but TripAdvisor ripped it apart. Made me think Harrah's at $40 might be better bet if we do go to Tunica (well, Tunica Resorts).


Been there, done that.

Bally's = Motel 6. Cheap, but not terrible. You will survive it

Harrah's is nicer (similar to a Fairfield Inn, w.o. the breakfast). They have 3 hotels there, I stayed at the Veranda and I liked it.
Also, Horseshoe is pretty good (maybe the best buffet in Tunica)


dukerau said:   The Peabody Hotel in Memphis has ducks that do an entrance and exit march at 11a and 5p (confirm times - I'm going off memory). Seemed like lots of families with kids found it entertaining. You don't need to be staying at the hotel to pop in for the show.
I considered mentioning the ducks @ the Peabody and decided against it. It is a fun ~20 minutes to get a drink and see the ducks but then you realize that you're parked in downtown Memphis and just looking for something else to do. I advise against just "taking a nice walk in downtown Memphis" because I've had multiple friends mugged doing that. Go check out Beale Street and maybe get some food but do it in the middle of the day. Perhaps see the ducks at 5pm at the end of your time downtown, on your way out of the area.

Also, I'm a fan of Rendevous (bbq place) in downtown Memphis. It's not cheap, but it has great dry ribs.
Rendezvous is OK but I don't find the hype (and wait) to be worth it. Go to Corkys or Interstate or Neely's (Pat and Gina from the Food Network) or Central BBQ or the Bar-B-Q Shop on Madison (not far from the zoo, and it is great!) or Tops. They are all quite good. Or if you find yourself way out east at Shelby Farms, go to the Three Little Pigs or the Germantown Commissary.

Or if you've had enough BBQ, go to Gus' World Famous for some fried chicken. OMG it is good. There is a Gus' downtown and another one out east.




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