LAS VEGAS FRONT DESK TIPPING!

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I have Priceline reservations for JW Marriott and Paris Hotel...what upgrade should I ask for at these 2 places? I am going in 3 weeks..can't wait to try the $20 tip. hehehe...

I usually go two or three times a year and have not heard of this practice or seen anyone do it. I just established a players club account with the casino/hotel and they have comped everything since. The front desk personnel are usually pretty accommodating to try to get you the best they can.

I have Priceline reservations for JW Marriott and Paris Hotel...what upgrade should I ask for at these 2 places? I am going in 3 weeks..can't wait to try the $20 tip. hehehe...


Having done this about 10-15 times at various hotels with normal bookings and having tried it 4-5 times with Priceline or Hotwire bookings, I can tell you your chances of success with a Priceline booking are slim to none. As it is, at least in most hotels, the front desk staff are told to give the crappiest (worst view, near the ice machine, etc.) rooms to Priceline/Hotwire/package trip customers and save the nicer rooms for the higher paying/full rate/business customers. It's quite possible, depending on the hotel chain, that their computer will not allow them to give you above a certain class of room, no matter what, without a manager override when you've gotten a severely discounted rate.

You have a decent chance of getting something at the Paris, but I'd say slim to none at the JW Mariott. I've had front desk staff give me my $20 back and simply say "There's nothing I can do" before I even actually asked for the upgrade. Your best bet is to hand them the $20 (as described by other posters) and simply say "I was wondering if there was anything you could do?" as you're handing it to them. If you're too obvious about it they won't want to A) get caught by their supervisor(especially in the event that you're a Priceline/etc. customer), and/or B) have everyone overhear that you're scheming an upgrade for "free"

IMO, you get the best chance if you book directly through the hotel's website. In fact, certain hotels have best rate guaranty, so u don't have to worry about not getting a near bottom rate.

I think it's hard to resist the deals from Priceline, Hotwire, and other booking system instead of paying higher price at their own hotel websites. If I can get a better view while booking a room at hotel website and more money, I still don't understand the 20 dollars trick because you actually pay more than others. Oh and you have to give them another 20 bucks just for a better view. That's just not right!

Any experience in doing this at the LV Airport for the properties with airport check-in? Ballys/Paris for example. Do the clerks there has just as much upgrade leeway as the clerks at the hotel itself?

Just returned from a couple nights at MGM, dropped the 20 on the clerk at the airport and ended up with a deluxe room ($59 players club promotion) that had a great view of NYNY and Monte Carlo. Earlier in this thread, I read that the airport clerks are actually better to use. They are not managed as closely as the ones at the resort, so they have a bit more freedom.

Followed that up with a show, spa and a moderate amount of gaming. Upon checkout, we ended up with one of the nights comped.

Great tips, and awesome thread

I think the airport is the way to go

Good Luck

T

u were lucky there....I too just returned from vegas but unlike u I checked in at the MGM hotel and the $20 trick didnt work . I checked in on xmas eve and the clerk said she cant do much as the hotel was really booked...
anyways got a good looking view room just like you with a view of NYNY, luxor, mandalay bay and tropicana...

Tapper said: Just returned from a couple nights at MGM, dropped the 20 on the clerk at the airport and ended up with a deluxe room ($59 players club promotion) that had a great view of NYNY and Monte Carlo. Earlier in this thread, I read that the airport clerks are actually better to use. They are not managed as closely as the ones at the resort, so they have a bit more freedom.

Followed that up with a show, spa and a moderate amount of gaming. Upon checkout, we ended up with one of the nights comped.

Great tips, and awesome thread

I think the airport is the way to go

Good Luck

T

I just got back from a Vegas trip. I spent one night in New York New York and two nights in Aladdin. I paid $100 at NYNY and $49 a night at Aladdin, all due to the great deals found here at fatwallet. I was going to try the $20 trick, but chickened out both times. I didn't have a ton of money to burn, so I just couldn't do it. But, at both hotels I told them that it was my first time in Vegas and asked if they had any free upgrades available.

At NYNY, I had booked their Park Avenue room and was upgraded to the Broadway room. That wouldn't be worth $20 because most times it's only a $5 difference between the two rooms. Of course, I would assume that if I had offered the $20 I would have gotten a better upgrade, but who knows for sure?

At Aladdin, I asked again and was given a free upgrade to a room with a better view. I was able to see the musical fountain at Ballagio from my room.

A few quick reviews - I didn't think there was anything special to the NYNY room. The bathroom was tiny. It surprised me because we were in there Broadway room, I would have thought it would have been nicer. Aladdin was such a better location on the strip and the room was much nicer. The bathroom was beautiful and the room was spacious.

Maybe next time I'll be a little less frugal and actually try the $20 trick.

Tapper said: Just returned from a couple nights at MGM, dropped the 20 on the clerk at the airport and ended up with a deluxe room ($59 players club promotion) that had a great view of NYNY and Monte Carlo. Earlier in this thread, I read that the airport clerks are actually better to use. They are not managed as closely as the ones at the resort, so they have a bit more freedom.

Followed that up with a show, spa and a moderate amount of gaming. Upon checkout, we ended up with one of the nights comped.

SNIP


Nice, just wondering how did you get one of the nights comped? Did you charge alot of stuff to your room? Or do you think it was due to the amount you gambled?

I hear that if you play a lot, you get room comps, etc. We are not gamblers so we never get anything comped.

For anyone staying at the Aladdin, if you are a Starwood Preferred Plus guest (starwood card holder), you are entitled to a free room upgrade without the $20 tip, so save your 20 spot for the tables/slots. Make sure your SPG member number is linked to your reservation to make sure you get all your starpoints and free upgrades, not to mention later checkout times, free paper, etc.... If you don't book through SPG, call the hotel directly, and tell them to link your reservation to your SPG #.

As far as comps, I've been told the casinos look for players that avg $25 bets for four hours, then you get rooms/meals comped.

We gambled nowhere near the $25 minimum for 4 hours, more like 10 or so. I think we ended up with the comp more because of the shows (2 at avg $100 per tix) and spa ($300) that we took in.

The best advice I can give is to make sure everything you do is linked to your room, or players club card. That way they will see how much you are actually spending. Charge the spa, shows, meals all to your room so upon checkout it will be obvious what kind of cash you dropped during your stay

T

wutsdadealio said: Tapper said: Just returned from a couple nights at MGM, dropped the 20 on the clerk at the airport and ended up with a deluxe room ($59 players club promotion) that had a great view of NYNY and Monte Carlo. Earlier in this thread, I read that the airport clerks are actually better to use. They are not managed as closely as the ones at the resort, so they have a bit more freedom.

Followed that up with a show, spa and a moderate amount of gaming. Upon checkout, we ended up with one of the nights comped.

SNIP


Nice, just wondering how did you get one of the nights comped? Did you charge alot of stuff to your room? Or do you think it was due to the amount you gambled?

Superkman said: I would like to humbly disagree with the other posters in this thread- tipping the check in clerk can definitely work. This is called the "$20 trick" (google it if you so desire). I was just in Las Vegas on Aug 14, staying at the Treasure Island. Upon check in, I simply had a folded $20 under my credit card and handed it to the clerk when he asked for my credit card. We were upgraded to a suite room and he sent up a bottle of champagne on the house as well. It was fantastic, and the wife was very impressed!

Of course, YMMV, but I'm heading back to Vegas on Sunday and I'm going to try the trick again. I'll post to this thread with the results next week upon my return.


That almost sounds like bribery- will the clerk be offended and downgrade my room?

We have reserved and paid for a spa suite at New York New York for May. I was wondering if doing the $20 tip trick would help us get a room with a great view. Does anyone know if all of those rooms have good views?

CaptainAlias said: Superkman said: I would like to humbly disagree with the other posters in this thread- tipping the check in clerk can definitely work. This is called the "$20 trick" (google it if you so desire). I was just in Las Vegas on Aug 14, staying at the Treasure Island. Upon check in, I simply had a folded $20 under my credit card and handed it to the clerk when he asked for my credit card. We were upgraded to a suite room and he sent up a bottle of champagne on the house as well. It was fantastic, and the wife was very impressed!

Of course, YMMV, but I'm heading back to Vegas on Sunday and I'm going to try the trick again. I'll post to this thread with the results next week upon my return.


That almost sounds like bribery- will the clerk be offended and downgrade my room?


how would they be offended if you're giving them 20 dollars just to upgrade your room? THEY GET 20 BUCKS POCKETED IF YOU DO THIS! 20 dollars for 10-20 seconds worth of work. and, no, they cannot downgrade your room if you've payed for one that's better...

tzard said: We have reserved and paid for a spa suite at New York New York for May. I was wondering if doing the $20 tip trick would help us get a room with a great view. Does anyone know if all of those rooms have good views?

Assuming you want to stay with a spa suite but just get one with a nice view that sounds like overkill as you aren't really upgrading rooms, there is no difference in price in their system. You can simply just ask nicely and get a nicer view for free. But if you are feeling generous, feel free to give the checkin person $20 anyways.

BTW IMO a view is a bit overrated as you don't spend much time looking out your window. I'd be more concerned with getting something close to an elevator and on a lower level so you can spend less time getting to and from and being in elevators. Also for NYNY, try to get something far from the coaster to reduce the noise.

One more question- the probability of this trick working is higher at casino-oriented hotels versus regular hotels?

Well I just got back from Amsterdam and can verify that the 20 dollar (there 20 euro) trick works like a charm. We were staying at the Renaissance Amsterdam for new years eve and wanted to have a nice view of the fireworks. At first, they gave us a room on a lower floor with a courtyard view; definitely not what we wanted. I went back down to the desk and asked for a room on a higher floor. At first they didn't budge, but then the deskclerk noticed the 20 euro note peeking out from underneath my room card. At that point, everything changed, and she became much more interested in finding me a suitable room. In the end, we were upgraded to the club level on the top floor of the hotel with an excellent view of the entire city.

So, the 20 dollar trick definitely works. I was nervous doing it, but I will definitely do it in the future. By the way, some other posters have said that the $20 trick doesn't work with Priceline reservations. From my experience, this isn't the case. The desk clerk doesn't care how you booked your room; they just want your tip.

Stayed at Paris Weds night. They tried to upsale me on my room before I even said anything to them, Sir, for an extra charge we can put you in a suite. I asked how much, dhe said $89, I said, My hell that is all I paid for the room to begin with.

The room was ok, had stayed there before and thought it was worse than I could remember..from just 6 months ago. The furniture in the room had large wholes in it, and the carpet needed some cleaning.


Will be back next week and will stay at The Wynn.

wanabath said: Stayed at Paris Weds night. They tried to upsale me on my room before I even said anything to them, Sir, for an extra charge we can put you in a suite. I asked how much, dhe said $89, I said, My hell that is all I paid for the room to begin with.

The room was ok, had stayed there before and thought it was worse than I could remember..from just 6 months ago. The furniture in the room had large wholes in it, and the carpet needed some cleaning.


Will be back next week and will stay at The Wynn.


Thats where you look around, lean in, and say.. I'll hand you a 20, you take care of the rest.

Bet he would have done it w/o a problem!

You can have your way with Vegas with smart tipping. This is, of course, subject to what you are tipping for and if the person can actually do anything about it. A tip on a night like New Year's Eve probably won't get you anywhere since it's one of the busier nights in Vegas and most of the higher end rooms will be taken.

But yah, flashing a 20 here and there does a lot. Hell, if you and a few friends are planning on hitting up a club, one of the best things you can do is gather up all the money that you all would have paid for cover and hand it to the bouncer instead. Great way to skip through lines.

This just worked for me at Caesars Palace. I booked the cheapest room online, checked in at the airport and let the clerk see the $20 bill. She put us in the new Augustus Tower, it would have been an extra $120/night if I had booked that room myself. Second to the top floor "petite suite" with an awesome view of the strip. I would never had tried if it weren't for this thread - thanks for the advice!

SaabStory said: This just worked for me at Caesars Palace. I booked the cheapest room online, checked in at the airport and let the clerk see the $20 bill. She put us in the new Augustus Tower, it would have been an extra $120/night if I had booked that room myself. Second to the top floor "petite suite" with an awesome view of the strip. I would never had tried if it weren't for this thread - thanks for the advice!

That's awesome. I'm heading down in February and I'm gonna try at the airport also. We are staying at the MGM Grand. Hopefully I'll have as much luck as you did!

I first heard about the $20 Trick on a site about 6 years ago (something along the lines of Las Vegas Hack Attack). The forums there were filled with great info like this, and stories about how well the trick worked went on for pages. The webmaster then decided to remove all of the info from the forums and started selling it as a subscription instead.

Anyway, I decided to give it a try. Staying at Paris with a reservation I had booked directly online, I nervously handed a twenty to the clerk with my credit card and asked if there were any upgrades available. She looked at me and said, "Oh no, don't do this to me!" I figured I'd somehow messed up and gotten her in trouble, so I said "sorry" and tried to retrieve the bill. She said, "No, that's okay", and pocketed the cash. She did some clickety-clicks on her keyboard, then said, "I can put you in a petite suite". The room overlooked the pool and the Eiffel Tower through one set of windows, and the Bellagio fountains through the other. Score!

Remember, the Eye-in-the-Sky is above the check-in desks, too. Clerks would be hard pressed to be pulling off something illicit under those conditions. Plus, a simple review of the check-in logs would show people getting upgraded; if this was a no-no, you can bet it would be stopped.

My understanding is that the desk folks can put you anywhere they want, as long as it's equal to at least what you originally reserved. If rooms are open, a $20 and a smile can go a long way. I'll be trying this again at Aladdin in March (thanks to this forum for the great deal). As said before, if they take your money and give you squat, it's just your first losing bet in Vegas. But remember -- you're there to gamble!

Anyone try this with any larger bills?

We were able to get out vegas trip SOOO much cheaper than first expected (370 for both of us including a car, compared to just over a gran) that I think I am going to try this trick with a $50. I will be going for airport check in to the MGM grand.

Maybe I'll get the penthouse..

Problem is, we are going Feb 10-12 and I am afraid this could be a rather busy wkend in vegas.

We shall see...

why would that particular weekend be busy? its the week after the super bowl

atrain929 said: why would that particular weekend be busy? its the week after the super bowl

And the weekend before Valentine's Day...


BossPup said: Well I just got back from Amsterdam and can verify that the 20 dollar (there 20 euro) trick works like a charm. We were staying at the Renaissance Amsterdam for new years eve and wanted to have a nice view of the fireworks. At first, they gave us a room on a lower floor with a courtyard view; definitely not what we wanted. I went back down to the desk and asked for a room on a higher floor. At first they didn't budge, but then the deskclerk noticed the 20 euro note peeking out from underneath my room card. At that point, everything changed, and she became much more interested in finding me a suitable room. In the end, we were upgraded to the club level on the top floor of the hotel with an excellent view of the entire city.

So, the 20 dollar trick definitely works. I was nervous doing it, but I will definitely do it in the future. By the way, some other posters have said that the $20 trick doesn't work with Priceline reservations. From my experience, this isn't the case. The desk clerk doesn't care how you booked your room; they just want your tip.

A while ago I booked a room at Hyatt (may be a Grand) through Hotwire, I asked for paid upgrade and the girl said the computer doesn't allow to.

This is great. I'm heading down to Vegas in about a month, staying at the Aladdin. I'll be doing this for sure.

I'm heading to Vegas on Thursday .. staying at the HOTEL at mandalay bay ... i've heard conflicting reports whether or not the hotel is al the same suites. Does anyone know? I want to give the $20 trick a shot considering we got a great deal staying ontop of the changing rates at the hotel .. got it for 199/nite! thurs-sun . So basically question is are there different rooms at the HOTEL ? and has anyone tried it here.. also does time of check in matter? we'll be checking in around 630ish.

THEhotel is very, VERY, nice! I've stayed there twice. The week it opened and once again this past August.
Both times I used the $20 trick. The first time all the $20 did was allow me to upgrade to the larger room, for an extra $100 added to the rate! Definitely NOT worth it. These rooms are the ones on the end of the hall and they are slightly larger (in the bedroom), and have a 42" Plasma in the bedroom as well as the living room. Otherwise than that they are exactly the same room. They might have upgraded since then, just ask, if they give you the "well it's larger and has a Plasma TV in the bedroom for an additional $100" routine, then Pass...

This past August the $20 got me a Strip View room on a high floor (both things I politely suggested). Great view! Definitely worth the extra $20.

Best bet is to keep the cheap rate and offer the $20 to get a room that views the strip. Remember if you are staying multiple days, that $20 covers the entire stay, GO FOR IT! Remember half of the rooms here have a great view and the other half stare at the desert, so $20 goes a long way in helping the desk clerk decide which room to assign.

THEHotel is suites only, so the $20 trick probably won't do much of anything for you.

Just back from Las Vegas! I was at Flamingo for 4 nights. At first, I couldn't check-in at the airport because their system was down and I had to check-in at the hotel lobby. I did ask for a better room with a $20 under my CC and she actually took it. You know what she told me?

She said, "I'm sorry sir, that would be additional $60 per night for a upgraded room."
I said "Ok! That's fine! I just take the one that I had."

Boy, I was like OMG I just lost $20 to the casino in no time. I didn't notice her manager was just right behide her but hey I actually got a better room with a Bellegio fountain view. That was so cool and just awesome. $200 for four nights plus $20 tips for a upgraded room. Not bad!

Hello,

I will be going to Vegas on Thursday as well. We will be staying at the Luxor. Any specific thoughts on this location. What are the most desirable rooms there to get upgraded to? We have never been to Vegas. Thanks.

I have stayed at Luxor at least once each year for the past seven years. I've never tipped the desk clerk here, but I always got my request of a ground floor tower room with a smile and a thank you.

My description of the Luxor is it is usually the cheapest of the "nice" places. I've never stayed in one of their suites but I have stayed in both the Pyramid and Tower rooms. If you are going for quality over location ask to be given a Tower room. These are in the two towers that were added to the north side of the pyramid. Although their location isn't as cool as staying in the pyramid they are a much better room for the same price. The size of the tower rooms are bigger and they are more lavishly appointed, especially in the bathroom (you get a DEEP tub and a separate glass shower).

Whatever you do make sure you enter through the front door when you first get there. Once you smell the cinnamon scent they inject into the air of the lobby you will know you have arrived. The first step inside the door is breathtaking, you will see... The valet is free so just pull the car up to the valet stand and go inside. Have fun...I'm checking into "The Lux" next Friday!

spectra said: I have stayed at Luxor at least once each year for the past seven years. I've never tipped the desk clerk here, but I always got my request of a ground floor tower room with a smile and a thank you.

My description of the Luxor is it is usually the cheapest of the "nice" places. I've never stayed in one of their suites but I have stayed in both the Pyramid and Tower rooms. If you are going for quality over location ask to be given a Tower room. These are in the two towers that were added to the north side of the pyramid. Although their location isn't as cool as staying in the pyramid they are a much better room for the same price. The size of the tower rooms are bigger and they are more lavishly appointed, especially in the bathroom (you get a DEEP tub and a separate glass shower).

Whatever you do make sure you enter through the front door when you first get there. Once you smell the cinnamon scent they inject into the air of the lobby you will know you have arrived. The first step inside the door is breathtaking, you will see... The valet is free so just pull the car up to the valet stand and go inside. Have fun...I'm checking into "The Lux" next Friday!



Thanks for the tips.

SaabStory said: This just worked for me at Caesars Palace. I booked the cheapest room online, checked in at the airport and let the clerk see the $20 bill. She put us in the new Augustus Tower, it would have been an extra $120/night if I had booked that room myself. Second to the top floor "petite suite" with an awesome view of the strip. I would never had tried if it weren't for this thread - thanks for the advice!

that is awesome! congrat's on that! stuff like this gets me stoked for when i go back after i graduate this may!

i got a nice "burn" trying the trick at the stratosphere. I put a $20.00 between my id and my credit card and said "its my friends first time in vegas..........." and the clerk told me and the clerk next to her, "Did you know there was a $20.00 bill in between your id and cc??" I was so embarrased and said "no, i did not know that!!" She said she was gonna find me the best smoking room and we ended up with the room farthest from the elevator next to the pool (in the middle of winter) with a crap view of the parking garage!!! I guess she didnt want to be bribed. at least i got the 20 back!

Yikes...she was probably offended!

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