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Thanks for posting - but it's not worth all of the nitpicky rules that Hhonors pads their program with. Miles expire a year without a stay, must do reservation through them to accrue points, can't get a room upgrade at gold, takes forever to get gold, blah blah blah.

Better time spent getting starwood points that don't expire and give you a round trip ticket after 20k points. Right now after two stays you get one free.


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190rev said:Thanks for posting - but it's not worth all of the nitpicky rules that Hhonors pads their program with. Miles expire a year without a stay, must do reservation through them to accrue points, can't get a room upgrade at gold, takes forever to get gold, blah blah blah.

Better time spent getting starwood points that don't expire and give you a round trip ticket after 20k points. Right now after two stays you get one free.

I second this. You could always transfer Starwood points to hilton HHonors points if needed. 1 starpoint = 2.5 hilton hhonors points.


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190rev said:..... Miles expire a year without a stay, must do reservation through them to accrue points, can't get a room upgrade at gold, takes forever to get gold, blah blah blah.

I'm confused, do they remove the miles after they're transferred to an airline account after one year of hilton inactivity? Or do they only remove points from the hilton Points account after one year of inactivity? Thanks a lot!


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I second this. You could always transfer Starwood points to hilton HHonors points if needed. 1 starpoint = 2.5 hilton hhonors points.

Can you tell me how to do that? I'm arranging a trip and if this is true, it makes my hotel choices easier..

Also, for those who doesn't know, hilton/Intercontinential group (Holiday Inn) will status match each other. So if you have Diamond with hilton, call Holiday Inn and ask for a status match!


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Manzelle said:Most Hampton Inns are garbage. My preference is homewood suites regardless of the length of my stay. I love these quarterly bonuses since I already have 40 nights this year.

On what do you base the negative Hampton comments? I average over 5 nights of business hotel stays per month, mostly in California and Arizona, and find Hamptons to be an excellent value. It is unusual for me to stay in the same place for more than 2 consecutive nights, and even then do not spend too much time in the hotel, and find it difficult to pay the ~20% extra for Homewood, which have fewer properties for me to choose from.


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MangoGT said:Green, although I doubt I will end up staying at a hilton before the promotion ends. I even have an HHonors AMEX that I use a good amount, but I still don't have enough incentive to book nights at Hiltons. Other than some of the low end Hampton Inns and the high end Conrad brand, hilton has let a lot of their hotels fall by the wayside in recent years in terms of guest quality. They almost specialize in being large convention hotels rather than high quality destinations (a la Intercontinental, Fairmont, Kimpton, etc.).

While I stay mostly in Hamptons, which are quite modern and well maintained, I included a few embassy suites on a recent extended road trip, and was pleasantly surprised by the upgraded, modernized facilities. About the only negative was individual flat screens in the breakfast area booths, which all had FoxNews blaring - more than I can handle first thing in the morning.


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MangoGT said:Green, although I doubt I will end up staying at a hilton before the promotion ends. I even have an HHonors AMEX that I use a good amount, but I still don't have enough incentive to book nights at Hiltons. Other than some of the low end Hampton Inns and the high end Conrad brand, hilton has let a lot of their hotels fall by the wayside in recent years in terms of guest quality. They almost specialize in being large convention hotels rather than high quality destinations (a la Intercontinental, Fairmont, Kimpton, etc.).

Of all of the hotel reward programs, we have found HHonors to be the best when it comes to earning enough points for stays, and then being able to use them in a desirable location.

With an HHonors AMEX and a reasonable number of hotel stays, I do not have any difficulty accumulating several hundred thousand points per year.

hilton offers point strechers, where rooms can be booked for as few as 7500 pts:
http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/rewards/freenight.do
http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/rewards/pointstretcher.do

As the Hhonors AMEX should qualify you for at least Silver membership, you qualify for reduced awards for 6 nights or more http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/landing/VIPOnly/index.do We have used this for a week at the hilton Waikoloa Village on the Big Island, doubletree in Waikiki, and their new property in Guantacaste, Costa Rica. You can also exchange airline miles for points, or buy them directly from hilton http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/points/purchase.do


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shank said:As the Hhonors AMEX should qualify you for at least Silver membership, you qualify for reduced awards for 6 nights or more http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/landing/VIPOnly/index.do We have used this for a week at the hilton Waikoloa Village on the Big Island, doubletree in Waikiki, and their new property in Guantacaste, Costa Rica. You can also exchange airline miles for points, or buy them directly from hilton http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/points/purchase.do

I have the Hhonors AMEX but I haven't received any bonus points for signing up--at all. At this point, this might land me in small claims court or arbitration.


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MangoGT said:shank said:As the Hhonors AMEX should qualify you for at least Silver membership, you qualify for reduced awards for 6 nights or more http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/landing/VIPOnly/index.do We have used this for a week at the hilton Waikoloa Village on the Big Island, doubletree in Waikiki, and their new property in Guantacaste, Costa Rica. You can also exchange airline miles for points, or buy them directly from hilton http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/points/purchase.do

I have the Hhonors AMEX but I haven't received any bonus points for signing up--at all. At this point, this might land me in small claims court or arbitration.

There were specific purchase requirements - did you meet them? Contact Hhonors customer service?


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shank said:MangoGT said:shank said:As the Hhonors AMEX should qualify you for at least Silver membership, you qualify for reduced awards for 6 nights or more http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/landing/VIPOnly/index.do We have used this for a week at the hilton Waikoloa Village on the Big Island, doubletree in Waikiki, and their new property in Guantacaste, Costa Rica. You can also exchange airline miles for points, or buy them directly from hilton http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/points/purchase.do

I have the Hhonors AMEX but I haven't received any bonus points for signing up--at all. At this point, this might land me in small claims court or arbitration.


There were specific purchase requirements - did you meet them? Contact Hhonors customer service?

Done and done. Working with Hhonors CS but I don't think this is going to go anywhere soon.


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190rev said:Miles expire a year without a stay, can't get a room upgrade at gold, takes forever to get gold, blah blah blah.

I believe you are incorrect on these two points. The points don't expire, even without a stay. Also, I've gotten room upgrades with gold.


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therat84 said:to be honest with you guys...gold doesnt carry as much weight. i used to work front desk and we would only care for the diamonds, platinums or vips depending on the brand.......people push their gold status as if they are hot doo doo..i would too, dont get me wrong, but if the hotel only has 5 suites, i'm sure there are more than 5 diamond/platinum members that are staying there that night.....so i'm almost positive you will be getting a standard room, unless you slip them money.

my experience as Gold has been the opposite.

We've been upgraded all over the place with free breakfast at our stays.

In Phuket, Thailand we got free lounge access and upgraded executive room.


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shank said:Manzelle said:Most Hampton Inns are garbage. My preference is homewood suites regardless of the length of my stay. I love these quarterly bonuses since I already have 40 nights this year.

On what do you base the negative Hampton comments? I average over 5 nights of business hotel stays per month, mostly in California and Arizona, and find Hamptons to be an excellent value. It is unusual for me to stay in the same place for more than 2 consecutive nights, and even then do not spend too much time in the hotel, and find it difficult to pay the ~20% extra for Homewood, which have fewer properties for me to choose from.

I've stayed in many Hamptons. The one in Hattiesburg, MS is crap and so is the one in Columbus, IN. I now stay in the embassy suites when going to Camp Atterbury, near Indianapolis, and if I ever stay 3 weeks in MS again I'll be going to the hilton Garden Inn across the street. The Hampton in Colorado Spings isn't bad but it didn't have a refrigerator. I was there 10 nights and not having a refrigerator was garbage.


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talonesi said:Seal said:Thanks !!!
Every points counts towards qualify me for H/H GOLD that is expiring the end of this month


How do you know when Gold expires? I can't for the life of me find it anywhere.

Tiers expire 14-months from the date of reaching each respective tier. You have to maintain your status for your current tier to remain valid after 14-months...or something like that.


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Seal said:BigCountry said:Seal said:Thanks !!!
Every points counts towards qualify me for H/H GOLD that is expiring the end of this month


are you going to get the new Hilton Amex that comes with Gold for free for the first year, and if you hit $40k in spending, you get Diamond?


Another important point: this new H/H SURPASS AMEX has an annual fee of $75.

I just went to the AMEX site to try to convert my existing H/H AMEX (no annual fee) and found that the new H/H SURPASS AMEX costs $75/yr. !!
- this may be an OK deal for those that travel a lot on business.

I got my HHonors AMEX six months ago and earned a 50K bonus (if the deal is still alive the link is in Finance) and upgraded to Surpass last month and earned an additional 30K bonus. My three stays since then (total of 5 nights all under $200) have earned me 22K in bonus points and about $5K in spending on the AMEX (including the stays) has earned me another 18K. Total 120K in bonus points good for three nights in a class 6, 5K away from four consecutive nights in a class 5, and 55K to go for six nights at a hilton resort. My weekend stays earn me close to 10K if I charge them to the card so I'm aiming for it by early next year - I have at least three more stays by next February.

If I'm short there is also the hilton Citi Visa with a 15K bonus - I just got three new Citi Visas so I'm holding that option in reserve.

BTW - The 1,000 point bonus referred to in the tread seems to replace the 500 point bonus for booking online.


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Seal said:BigCountry said:Seal said:Thanks !!!
Every points counts towards re-qualifying me for H/H GOLD, which is expiring the end of this month


are you going to get the new Hilton Amex that comes with Gold for free for the first year, and if you hit $40k in spending, you get Diamond?


Thanks for Sharing this New Info with us

Sadly, I already have the original H/H AMEX. This new H/H SURPASS AMEX would NOT qualify me to renew as GOLD VIP due the fine prints below:

" 1 To earn up to 40,000 hilton HHonors bonus points, you must make your first eligible purchase with the hilton HHonors Surpass Card within one year of Card issuance. Only one first purchase bonus per Card account. Only firsttime hilton HHonors Cardmembers will earn up to 40,000 hilton HHonors bonus points. Cardmembers who have previously earned a first-purchase bonus from any hilton HHonors Card from American Express earn the incremental difference of up to 40,000 hilton HHonors bonus points."

I may have to call them to find out if you MUST charge at least $20,000 per yr. to re-qualify as GOLD VIP.
- I last qualify for GOLD VIP when I stayed at 6 properties within a short time period when we were travelling in NE-U.S. two years ago.

My Marriott GOLD will expire next year, hence I need to concentrate my hotel stay with either hilton or Marriott.
Maintaing any of these GOLD accounts only makes sense if you travel quite a bit and can enjoy some of the Upgrades.

Just an FYI - I upgraded to the Surpass in May and my Gold VIP card says it expires March 2011 - almost two years from now. Perhaps they give you a full year to charge the $20K necessary to maintain that tier.


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