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athwong said:I think it is a great idea to charge by the pound. You are afterall just cargo. If the post office ships by weight, why not airlines? Perhaps the fat surcharge could go towards a price discount for anorexics and super skinny people. Ryannair should be all over this idea.

The airlines already have scales at each counter. I don't see anything wrong with this idea. It forces people to pay for the resources they consume. Fatties need more jet fuel to get from point A to point B, and should pay more than light people. We'll probably never see this come to fruition, but it is the most equitable.

For now, if you take up 2 seats, you should pay for them.


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You WEIGH, you PAY...!!!!!!

Way to go AIRLINES!

Perhaps the passenger's own BOTTOM will affect the airline's own BOTTOM line????


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Now only if they charge people a shower fee. I have sat next to some people that smell like sh*t! They can require these people to take a shower in the airline lounge. Second they can require parents to purchase either a gag or sedatives for their obnoxious little loud mouthed children!


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HawkeyeNFO said:athwong said:I think it is a great idea to charge by the pound. You are afterall just cargo. If the post office ships by weight, why not airlines? Perhaps the fat surcharge could go towards a price discount for anorexics and super skinny people. Ryannair should be all over this idea.

The airlines already have scales at each counter. I don't see anything wrong with this idea. It forces people to pay for the resources they consume. Fatties need more jet fuel to get from point A to point B, and should pay more than light people. We'll probably never see this come to fruition, but it is the most equitable.

For now, if you take up 2 seats, you should pay for them.


I beg to differ on the weight issue. Muscle weighs 2x as more than fat, so a person can weigh much more than your chicken leg self, and not be a fattie!


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lb9123 said:HawkeyeNFO said:athwong said:I think it is a great idea to charge by the pound. You are afterall just cargo. If the post office ships by weight, why not airlines? Perhaps the fat surcharge could go towards a price discount for anorexics and super skinny people. Ryannair should be all over this idea.

The airlines already have scales at each counter. I don't see anything wrong with this idea. It forces people to pay for the resources they consume. Fatties need more jet fuel to get from point A to point B, and should pay more than light people. We'll probably never see this come to fruition, but it is the most equitable.

For now, if you take up 2 seats, you should pay for them.



I beg to differ on the weight issue. Muscle weighs 2x as more than fat, so a person can weigh much more than your chicken leg self, and not be a fattie!

Irrelevant.

Cost per pound per mile for flying on an airliner has nothing to do with muscle, fat, or anything else.
It requires the same amount of JP-5 to fly 60 x 200-pound individuals 1000 miles as it does to fly 30 x 400-pound fatties the same 1000 miles. Either way, its 12,000 pounds of people.


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Makes sense to me. Cargo has always been about dimensional weight, where a threshold is set in terms of size equaling a higher cost. Don't see how it's any different with passengers. You get your seat area, so fit in it. If you take a larger size than that, then pay the fair share.


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henare said:so do the folks stuck with this charge get 2x mileage for their 2x fare?
Pay half and share the seat.


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iwanderafar said:Why is there so much anger at fat people?

No one's ANGRY at fat people.
Finally for the first time in the history, airlines are doing the RIGHT & LOGICAL thing.
Yes, they should also charge for the overly TALL people as well.

"DIMENSIONAL WEIGHT" should apply to anything and everything in the world.

Gov't should charge MORE TAX to anyone outside of being standard.


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Last I checked - pregnant women didn't spill over onto my seat and force me to hold my breath till the plane landed!

sooperman said:Go United!

Are they going to charge pregnant women too?

hmm....


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Great travel deal. Oh wait fat people get screwed by paying double when flight is full. I would like to know how they decide on the price of the ticket. Do they double what customer paid? I would hate to see someone get bumped from an international flight and then have to pay double. That could cost over a thousand dollars.


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athwong said:I think it is a great idea to charge by the pound. You are afterall just cargo. If the post office ships by weight, why not airlines? Perhaps the fat surcharge could go towards a price discount for anorexics and super skinny people. Ryannair should be all over this idea.

From a strictly cost-efficiency perspective, yes, passengers are just cargo. But air travel is a service industry, and delighting your customers is your top priority. Most customers I think would prefer not to be thought of as 'cargo.' True, this policy might sound like a service pleaser for some, but I can't REALLY see this improving my overall travel experience too dramatically-- at least not enough to offend a large percentage of your customer base.


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originalmillerman said:Great travel deal. Oh wait fat people get screwed by paying double when flight is full. I would like to know how they decide on the price of the ticket. Do they double what customer paid? I would hate to see someone get bumped from an international flight and then have to pay double. That could cost over a thousand dollars.

THAT'S the cost of being FAT.


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Some of these comments are downright mean. Funny but mean, and I'm a little ashamed for laughing.

If Mr. or Ms. Doublewide pays for 2 seats, does the airline guarantee that the seats will be adjacent?


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jellyguy11 said:
From a strictly cost-efficiency perspective, yes, passengers are just cargo. But air travel is a service industry, and delighting your customers is your top priority.

HA HA HA. Delighting their customers has not been a priority for a very long time in the airline industry.
The airlines couldn't care less, can't figure out how to make a profit, and can pretty much go fornicate themselves.


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markbyte said:squirrelproductions said:markbyte said:I think United is justified in this practice because United is forced to expend more resources to accommodate an obese person. More weight = more jet fuel used. This is a simple matter of physics.Conversely, when I fly with my 7yo, should he pay a fare relative to his weight (< 50lbs) as well? I'm all for that!

I wish it worked that way so that I could take my dog on a trip at a fraction of the cost. But, in the case of your 7 year old, they have to reserver a full seat for him thus the full charge.


Apparently, you are talking out your @$$ on this topic as I have flown my pets numerous times and have never been charged full fare or even anything close to it for them. If they will fit in a carrier that will go under a seat, there is one rate. If they are too large for that, they pay the cargo rate and go into a special area of the cargo holds.


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popyu said:WHOLE LOT, REALLY WHOLE~~~ LOT OF LAWSUITS & CLASS ACTION SUITS ARE COMING.

Fatsos & all those "human" rights activists will ask, "Why don't they make the seats larger???"

Now, I am a normal (???) person, 6ft tall, 165 lbs, and I could never "sit comfortably with armrests down".

So who's the fat & greedy here?

I am a bit over 6'1" and about 190 and have flown millions of miles in the past, so I think you must have "issues" if you "could never "sit comfortably with armrests down"." Personally, I fly first class most of the time, but on the occasions that it is not available, I have had no problems sitting comfortably in MY seat, but on occasion, have had to ask a fat person to please stay in THEIR seat, I really don't need them infringing on my space. If it offends them, tough.


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tedmales said:This hits home for me. I am not what you would call small. I stand 6'6" tall and weigh in at 380 lbs. Size 15 shoe. I hate flying. There is no room for me. Its not the width, but the leg room. I can buckle in without the extension, so I guess I will not get charged extra. But what's next. I know to most it's ok attack fat people, smokers, etc. But what comes next. The airlines need to take a hard look at their business plan. I don’t think this will work out for them in the end.

You are not being attacked. It's just that I don't want to sit next to you on a cross-country flight. You wouldn't want to sit next to someone your size, either. Normal-sized people would flock to United to avoid sitting next to the big-boned, especially since the other airlines will get stuck with all the over-sized passengers.


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You know, this is going to cause those people who are charged with this to sue not only the airlines but against the united states for discrimination or who knows what. I am not defending them because I don't have to worry about this, but it just seems like anyone and everyone yell discrimination whenever something changes. Not sure what will happen with this.


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Southwest and other airlines already do this


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Can we just make sure that we remain civil here folks. A persons a person no matter how...


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