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This thread originated as a discussion on the 'single lender rule' and various loopholes and methods for getting around it. When this thread was created, there was also a broader thread dealing with student loan consolidation information and deals. That thread has since been archived. After consulting with Fotomaniak, the author of the aforementioned thread, we have decided to move the FAQ page from the original thread to this one, and broaden the topic. Immediately below this paragraph, you will find Fotomaniak's student loan consolidation FAQ. Towards the end of the message, you will find the original discussion on getting around the single lender rule.

links
www.finaid.org/savings/ - ways to save for college
www.student-loan-consolidation.us - loan consolidation info
www.finaid.org/calculators/loanpayments.phtml - student loan calculator
http://www.northstar.org/Consolidation/CalcConsolBonus.aspx?Typ=Consolidation - a calculator for comparing consolidation bonuses
FAQ
Q: What are the benefits of consolidation?
A:
1) lenders offer incentives for consolidating loans with them. The most common incentive is 1% interest rate reduction after 24 or 36 on time payments. This reduction is permanent.
2) you'll have a fixed rate loan
3) at the time of conoslidation it's possible to choose new(longer) repayment plan which will reduce monthly payments
Q: Is consolidating your student loan the same thing as refinancing? (question by sandmanwake)
A: no, it's different
- you can refinance any (one) mortgage, for student loan consolidation often more than one loan required.
- when you refinance you can get current lowest rate, when you consolidate student loans the rate stays the same and you may be offered a rate reduction or other incentive.
- when you refinance you may have to pay a closing cost, when you consolidate student loans you don't pay anything.
- you can refinance as many times as you like, but in many cases you can't consolidate loan second time.
- you can refinance with the same company several times, but you can't consolidate several times with the same loan provider.
- when you refinance you can do a cashout, when you consoidate sudent loan - you can't
Introduction
Disclaimer:
- Info in this post is obtained from companies over the phone or from their website, but accuracy is not guaranteed.
Use at your own risk
- Most lenders tell that after consolidation your benefits will stay the same, i.e. you are able to requrest deferment/forberance due to hardship and other qualified events, but please be sure to confirm it before proceeding with consolidation... otherwise you may loose one of the most useful features of the student loan.
Request for info: if you had some negative experience with any of the student lenders please post your story here so the others can avoid the problem.
companies which allow to reconsolidate your loans
(i.e. they'll allow to consolidate your loan if you have already consolidated it with another lender(s) and even if you have only one loan)
www.collegeloan.com
www.acs-education.com
Bonus: after 6 month you'll get 1% of your loan balance as a Cash Back which can apply towards the principal balance or cash out
www.cfsloans.com
Bonus: after making on time payments for 36 month you'll get 1% interest rate reduction
Additional info: your loan will be with c1t1bank or with some other company(don't remember the name)
companies which DO NOT allow to reconsolidate your loans
(i.e. they will only allow you to consolidate if you have not previously consolidated or have more than one loan)
1% after 36 month:
www.financialaid.com $20K min
www.nextstudent.com 10.5K min
idapp.com ??? min (thanks dxr)
Tip from dxr: Another money saving strategy for the disciplined:
When I consolidated, I asked for a graduated, extended payment plan. This gave me very low initial payments. I then made payments as if I was on a normal extended repayment plan. My loan company counts these "overpayments" as additional payments, so for each payment I make, I get credited for 3 months of "on time payments." So in a little over a year, I will have an interest rate on my loans of under 1%. Note: This plan is contingent on how your loan company handles "overpayments".

Other bonuses
1.25% reduction after 24 month and .5% Auto-Debit
educationalloancompany.com $20K min (thanks igorlord)
Bonus:1% interest rate reduction after 24 payments
Bonus for consolidation during grace period .6 interest rate reduction if you consolidate during a grace period
www.northstar.org(copied from this thread thanks searcherz)
Bonus: .75% interest rate reduction starting with your first payment. I.e. they substruct .75%/12 from your principal balance with each monthly payment you make.
use this calculator to determine wether they save you more money than other companies:
http://www.northstar.org/Consolidation/CalcConsolBonus.aspx?Typ=Consolidation
looks like they are the best deal for shorter repayment termns (10 years or less).
btw, their calculator can be useful in comparing other companies bonuses
THE BEST DEAL
www.uheaa.org (thanks superking)
Minimum amount for consolidation: $10K ?
Interest Rate: weighted average
EDA: 1.25 !!!
Bonus: 1% reduction after 48 month.
Related Links:
Uheaa Amortization Tool created by ancient forum member Obsidian.
Discussing the UHEAA Consolidation process
Nelnet Consolidation
(thanks slc39) $7.5K min
Bonus:
- 1% interest rate reduction after 36 on time payments
OR
- 3.33% principal reduction after 30 on time payments
Tips and Tricks
- If you have more than 2 loans you can consolidate several times and get several bonuses.
- When consolidating make sure to check new terms and conditions. (See if you'll still be able to request unlimited Deferment and Forbearance in cases of hardship)
- If you have a spouse who is in school and eligible for a student loan, have her take out very small student loan, and then consolidate it with your loan to get the bonus.
- thanks dxr Another money saving strategy for the disciplined:
When I consolidated, I asked for a graduated, extended payment plan. This gave me very low initial payments. I then made payments as if I was on a normal extended repayment plan. My loan company counts these "overpayments" as additional payments, so for each payment I make, I get credited for 3 months of "on time payments." So in a little over a year, I will have an interest rate on my loans of under 1%. Note: This plan is contingent on how your loan company handles "overpayments".
Vocabulary
Deferment - a temporary suspension of your monthly loan payment. There are many different types of deferments available.
During deferment of Direct Subsidized Loans, principal payments are postponed and interest is not charged.
During deferment of Direct Unsubsidized Loans, principal payments are postponed, but interest is charged. Unpaid interest will be added to the principal balance (capitalized) of your loan(s) at the end of the deferment period. This will increase the amount you owe.
Forbearance - can be obtained and used to temporarily suspend or reduce your monthly loan payments. You may qualify for a forbearance if you are willing but unable to make loan payments due to certain types of financial hardships.

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Getting around the single lender rule

The strategy described here was previously posted in the Student Loan Consolidation Deals And Info thread. I'm starting a new thread for a number of reasons. First, the strategy is not a 'deal' per se. Second, its buried in a thread where people are looking for current deals on consolidations, whereas its greatest utility is for those who have long since consolidated and would have no reason to look there. Third, the strategy is still evolving, and scattered posts over the course of several months make it difficult for an interested party to piece together what is happening.

The Enemy - Single Lender Rule

I want to state at this point that there are two different types of people that can benefit from the strategy that I will outline. Those who have not yet consolidated, but who have taken loans out with only one lender, and those who have already consolidated with their single lender because they did not know they had another option. Many of us fall into the latter category and can benefit from this strategy, even if we have been out of school for years.

The 'Single Lender Rule' is found in Section 428C(b)(1)(A) of the Higher Education Act, which is a Federal law. the text is as follows:

(b) CONTENTS OF AGREEMENTS, CERTIFICATES OF INSURANCE, AND LOAN NOTES.-

(1) AGREEMENTS WITH LENDERS.-Any lender described in subparagraph (A), (B), or (C) of subsection (a)(1) who wishes to make consolidation loans under this section shall enter into an agreement with the Secretary or a guaranty agency which provides - (A) that, in the case of all lenders described in sub-section (a)(1), the lender will make a consolidation loan to an eligible borrower (on request of that borrower) only if the borrower certifies that the borrower has no other application pending for a loan under this section and (i) the lender holds an outstanding loan of that borrower which is selected by the borrower for consolidation under this section, except that this clause shall not apply in the case of a borrower with multiple holders of loans under this part, or (ii) the borrower certifies that the borrower has sought and has been unable to obtain a consolidation loan with income-sensitive repayment terms from the holders of the outstanding loans of that borrower (which are so selected for consolidation);


A more straightforward way of putting it is that if all of your student loans are held by one lender, then you will be unable to consolidate those loans with a different lender. Thus, rather than having the opportunity to play the field and get nice benefits from lenders such as UHEAA, you are stuck with whatever your current lender will give you.

Note subparagraph (ii) above. It lays the groundwork for the loophole that we will try and flesh out in this thread. Essentially, it says that even if all of your loans are held by a single lender, you can consolidate with a different bank if your current one will not provide 'income sensitive repayment terms.' For the most part, this doesn't help you because just about all lenders will provide such terms.

William D. Ford Federal Direct Loan Program

This program was created by Congress by virtue of the Student Loan Reform Act of 1993. What it does is allow students to borrow directly from the Federal Government, as opposed to using a private lender. It has some benefits over traditional private lenders which can be viewed on the program's website. Link.

Congress, in creating this program, left most of the finer details of its implementation to the discretion of the Secretary of Education, who promulgated regulations under which the loan program is operated. The regulations can be found at 34 CFR Part 685. Of particular interest is the following section:

34 CFR 685.220

Paragraph (b) - contains a list of loans that are eligible for consolidation under the Direct Loan Program. Note subparagraph 15 includes "Federal Consolidation Loans." Thus, student loans that have already been consolidated are not necessarily ruled out when pursuing a Direct Loan Consolidation.

Paragraph (c)(3)- Federal loans that have been consolidated previously (subparagraph 15 above) shall be consolidated into a "Direct Unsubsidized Consolidation Loan." (This is a fixed rate consolidation loan. The rate is determined by taking the weighted average interest rate of the loans being consolidated, and rounding to the nearest highest 1/8 percent. Thus, in my recent Direct Loan Consolidation, my single consolidated loan which was at 3.05% with KHESLC/Access Group, is consolidated with a Direct Loan at 3.125%)

Paragraph (d):

(d) Eligibility for a Direct Consolidation Loan. (1) A borrower may obtain a Direct Consolidation Loan if, at the time the borrower applies for such a loan, the borrower meets the following requirements:

(i) The borrower either—

(A) Has an outstanding balance on a Direct Loan; or

(B) Has an outstanding balance on an FFEL loan and asserts either—

(1) That the borrower is unable to obtain an FFEL consolidation loan; or

(2) That the borrower is unable to obtain an FFEL consolidation loan with income-sensitive repayment terms acceptable to the borrower and is eligible for the income contingent repayment plan under the Direct Loan Program.


The important thing about the above paragraph is that it says you are entitled to a Direct Loan if you currently have an FFEL loan (includes most consolidation loans), and are unable to obtain a consolidation loan with income-sensitive repayment terms acceptable to the borrower

So what is happening here? The single lender rule has an exception where a borrower can consolidate with a different lender if their current lender will not provide them with income contingent repayment terms. The Direct Loan Program, via this regulation, takes the concept a step further. It says that you are entitled to a Direct Loan Consolidation if you cannot obtain income sensitive repayment terms that are acceptable to you in your subjective judgment. Who is anyone else to say what is acceptable or unacceptable to you in your own opinion?

Interestingly enough, the income sensitive terms provided by Direct Loans are much nicer than anything you will ever see from a private lender. After 25 years, if your principle is not paid off (payments are determined by your income level), then the entire loan is forgiven. No other lender can compete with that.

You are probably wondering what the point of this exercise has been. Why bother moving my current loan to a direct loan? The interest rate will be rounded up to the nearest 1/8%, the benefits aren't intersting at all. It doesn't seem worth the hassle.

The point is that once you have a Direct Consolidation, you can reconsolidate anywhere! UHEAA for instance. Thus, regardless of your current consolidated rate, or how long ago you consolidated, once you get to Direct Loan, you will have the same rate, but be able to move it to UHEAA and lower the rate by 1.25% immediately, and another 1% after 48 payments.

My Experience

I found out about this strategy after receiving a solication from a company stating that I could lower my rate even if I have already consolidated. I decided to give them a call even though I was incredulous. They brought this strategy to my attention, and offered me a 1% rebate of my loan amount if I would use it to consolidate with them. After looking into it, I decided to use the strategy to obtain a Direct Loan Consolidation, and to either stay with the Direct Loan (I actually really like their income-sensitive repayment terms), or move it to UHEAA. I did not see any reason to go with the company that originally solicited me.

I filled out the Direct Loan application and other assorted necessary documents, and a few weeks later I received a letter from my current lender quoting the single lender rule and denying the consolidation. At that point i contacted the Department of Education Loan Umbudsman's office, who put me in touch with a contact person at my current lender. I had several conversations with this person, and wrote a letter detailing why I believed I Was entitled to a reconsolidate with a Direct Loan. I even faxed her a copy of the regulation. After several conversations I started to lose interest in the process, and stopped calling. However, last week I received notice that my lender released my loan information and that I will be receiving a Direct Loan. Additionally, on May 10, a user by the name of XRKZM posted in the Student Loan Consolidation Deals thread that he had tried this strategy (I originally posted it in March), and that he had succesfully moved his loan from Sallie Mae. Thus, we have two confirmations that it has worked.

I am hoping that this strategy can be tested and critiqued by the FW community. The successes that me and XRKZM have had may be dumb luck for all I know. I have outlined the theory behind it, but have not spent too much time trying to find holes in it. Hopefully some people will benefit from this.

Also, any other ideas for getting around the single lender rule can be tossed around here. I'll bring up two:

1) get a new loan with a different lender and reconsolidate all your loans anywhere you want

2) if you are married, consolidate both your own and your spouses loans with a lender of your choice. There is a risk involved. If one of you passes away, the other will be liable for the deceased's loans.

Update 10/19/05: Here is an article discussing the historical relationship between the FFELP and Direct loan programs.

update 3/26/06: Apparently, Direct Loans will no longer release loan information to FFELP lenders for people that apply to Direct Loans after March 31, 2006. This effectively means that if you apply to Direct Loans after 3/31/06, you will not be able to subsequently move your consolidation to UHEAA or any other lender.

Rathipon

Direct Loan Consolidation has a rate cap of 8.25%. If you weighted average is higher, you rate will become 8.25% after consolidation. See link for more info:
Calculating Interest Rate of Consolidated loan

The Department of Education has issued the following Dear Colleague Letter dated 3/17/06.

Specifically, it states:

In administering the Direct Loan Program, the Department will continue to process LVCs received from FFEL lenders through June 30, 2006, if the Direct Consolidation Loan that is the subject of the LVC resulted from a Direct Consolidation Loan application received by the Department on or before March 31, 2006.

This sounds to me like if you don't have an application into Direct Loans by March 31, 2006, they aren't going to release your loan info after you get your consolidation loan to Direct.
So you have a March 31, 2006 deadline to use Rath's technique above!

0) Called DL customer service and CSR said they will transfer a loan from another company even if it has been previously consolidated, but I won't get any incentives

1) You can fill out Direct Loan consolidation application on-line:
http://loanconsolidation.ed.gov

2) If you've used Direct Loans in the past, you can use your pin to electronically sign your application.
If you have not used your pin for a while, it may have been deactivated, to reactivate it go to: http://www.pin.ed.gov and select "reestablish my pin".

3) For loan type of my current loan, I was told to choose option "Usnubsidized Federal Consolidation Loan".

4) got a call from my current lender. They've asked why am I consolidating with DL and offered a bonus equal to 1% of principal balance if I stay with them. I've denied their offer. 1% extra from UHEAA will allow me to save around $100 during the first year.

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Thank You, very very helpful info, hope i can get out of stupd sallie mae

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Ok so I consolidated at 3%, big loan about 54K, is this worth is for me? Right now I have low payments under one of those tiered payment plans. Can I keep that?

Very interesting post.

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Thanks for reopening this topic.

I have about $130,000 in Stafford loan (one lender) and about $12,000 in Perkins loan.

Does anybody know if this would allow me to bypass the single lender rule or not?

If I can consolidate these, does it make sense considering the stafford is at 2.77% and the perkins is 5%.


Also about different benefit/incentives that banks offfer:

Does anybody know if they ever back out of promised rate reductions?
If so which ones?

Thanks a lot for input.

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organic2 said:Thanks for reopening this topic.

I have about $130,000 in Stafford loan (one lender) and about $12,000 in Perkins loan.

Does anybody know if this would allow me to bypass the single lender rule or not?

If I can consolidate these, does it make sense considering the stafford is at 2.77% and the perkins is 5%.


Also about different benefit/incentives that banks offfer:

Does anybody know if they ever back out of promised rate reductions?
If so which ones?

Thanks a lot for input.


If you consolidate them, you will owe $142,000 with a rate of 3.0% (weighted average is a rate of 2.95%, rounded up to the nearest 1/8) x30yrs. If you don't consolidate, you owe $130,000 at 2.875% (x30yrs) and $12,000 at 5.0% (5-10yrs).

Assuming you consolidate with UHEAA, your $142,000 will have a rate of 2.75% with direct debit, and then 1.75% after 4 yrs of on time payments.

If you don't consolidate and your lender has the standard deductions, you will have $130,000 at 2.625% (0.25% direct debit deduction) and then 1.625% after 3-4 yrs of ontime payments (some offer 1% off after only 3 yrs).

They appear pretty much equivalent. Consolidation is a hassle up front to get it consolidated, but then is easy to pay. Leaving them separate just means you gotta pay two checks instead of one, for 5-10yrs. Your call...

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OP... Good thinking.

I am currently helping my brother with his loans and have filed for consolidation loan through Direct Consolidation... However, I believe he may fall under this stupid rule.

When it does? I plan to fight it out with them.

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salomelovesjohn said:Ok so I consolidated at 3%, big loan about 54K, is this worth is for me? Right now I have low payments under one of those tiered payment plans. Can I keep that?

Very interesting post.


I'm not sure what you mean by a tiered payment plan.

I think in general, what people need to compare are the benefits between their current consolidated loan, and a consolidation from another lender such as UHEAA. After you reconsolidate with Direct Loans your rate will either be the same or very slightly increased. However, once you move to UHEAA you can lower your rate 1.25% immediately, and another 1% after four years. If the UHEAA benefits are superior to the ones offered by the lender holding you current consolidation loan, then chances are you will want to try moving the loans.

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Thank you for the very, very much for this specific post and explanation. Having consolidated all my loan 2 4 years ago - i always thought there was "no way out" of my current loan. It was incredibily difficult wading through the other thread.

If I understand this correctly, this is what can happen:

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1. Apply for conoslidation through Direct Loans
2. If app. is rejected due to previous consolidation start a letter campaign citing 34 CFR 685.220 paragraph (b)
3. When/If loan is consolidated reconsolidate with better lender (UHEAA) to take advantage of 1.25% rate reduction.
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I have started the application process on their website and have one more question before I pull the trigger.

If I eventually am able to re-consolidate with UHEAA my interest rate will STILL be intially based on my CURRENT consolidated rate (4.375%) not the newer much lower rates of current student loans? Is this correct?

EDIT: nevermind - my question was answered right above this post!

So - best case scenario - i can get a rate of 4.375-1.25% w/ UHEAA?


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And for clarification purposes you (OP) did NOT go with the lender who originally offered you a 1% rebate?

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Reckner:

Yes, your best case scenario is your current 4.375%, minus any benefits you can get from your new lender. If you choose UHEAA, then your at 3.125% right away, and 2.125% after 48 on time payments. The worst case scenario is that your current lender will not release your loan information to the Direct Loan Program.

And to clarify, you are correct. I did not use that company (Academic Loan Group) promising the 1% rebate. The benefits UHEAA offer are far superior. Basically, I asked their rep a lot of questions concerning the strategy, researched the laws and regulations they were relying upon, and did it myself.

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UCSFMed thanks for the reply

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Assuming you consolidate with UHEAA, your $142,000 will have a rate of 2.75% with direct debit, and then 1.75% after 4 yrs of on time payments.



With UHEAA, would it not be 1.75% with direct debit, and 0.75% after 4 yrs of on time payment?

Thanks

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awesome thread....I will post my experience from Sallie Mae -> Direct Consolidation -> UHEAA (hopefully) soon.

Thanks Rathipon!

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Nice job OP! Green for you.

I'm going the Sallie May -> Direct Consol route -> UHEAA as well.


Slightly off topic, the WSJ has an article today about a loophole that allows current students to consolidate. This is the case with my GF.

My strategy with her is to consolidate undergrad and existing grad schools loans (she graduates next year) with a direct consolidation. After that, on to UHEAA.

Hope there's still time left to do this!!!

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Rathipon said:
Also, any other ideas for getting around the single lender rule can be tossed around here. I'll bring up two:

1) get a new loan with a different lender and reconsolidate all your loans anywhere you want

2) if you are married, consolidate both your own and your spouses loans with a lender of your choice. There is a risk involved. If one of you passes away, the other will be liable for the deceased's loans.

Rathipon


Actually, Congress made some changes that no longer hold the surviving spouse responsible for the deceased spouse's loans if they are consolidated together.

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rogerbeagle said:Nice job OP! Green for you.


Slightly off topic, the WSJ has an article today about a loophole that allows current students to consolidate. This is the case with my GF.

My strategy with her is to consolidate undergrad and existing grad schools loans (she graduates next year) with a direct consolidation. After that, on to UHEAA.



Current students can definately benefit from a direct loan consolidation right now. If they can get it done before July 1, they will lock in the nice rates. Anyone have a link to the WSJ article or is it subscription only?

Rath

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I found an audit report of the Direct Loan Program issued by the DOE Office of the Inspector General. The report is dated February 10, 2005.

To summarize, the author argues that the Direct Loan Program is not subject to the single lender rule, that only the DOE is in a position to determine eligibility for a Direct Loan, and that the DOE has not taken strong enough action to protect applicants from their current lender's refusal to release loan information based upon perceived ineligibility.

Link

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It's subscription only. The key to the article was on a dept of education ruling on the loophole. Many lenders are honoring this request pending a final ruling. Some are even advertising to existing students.

If you are able to pull this off, and the ruling is negative, the consolidation essentially becomes invalid. Don't know exactly what this means just yet... but I'll find out!

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pachelbel9 said:
Actually, Congress made some changes that no longer hold the surviving spouse responsible for the deceased spouse's loans if they are consolidated together.


Do you have a link for this law?

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I have two consolidated loan one sub, one unsub with PHEA (Pennsylvania Higher Education Association).

I applied for the Direct Loan Consolidation. Will see what happens and post the results.

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Rathipon said:

Current students can definately benefit from a direct loan consolidation right now. If they can get it done before July 1, they will lock in the nice rates.

Rath


Rath, is this true? I have a friend who is a current undergrad with lots of loans and she believes she can't consolidate because she's still in school. Is there any reason she shouldn't be able to consolidate her student loans (like a specific situation)? This could be good news for her.

Just to share my experience, I was stuck with the single-lender devil (sallie mae) problem. After reading Rath's post on the other thread, I consolidated my loans with Direct Loans on their income contingent plan. I wasn't sure if it would go through, but it did! I had to send supporting documents (paystubs) because I hadn't been repaying for 2 years.

I think I may have gotten lucky because after I applied, I got a call from Sallie Mae trying to match Direct Loans and keep my business. I wasn't prepared to talk to them and played dumb.... "Do you have more than one lender?" "I'm not sure..." "Our computer shows you do." "Yes, I think that's correct." The only open loans I had were with Sallie Mae, but why bother correcting them.

I'm going to reconsolidate with UHEAA now. I'll let you know how it goes. Good luck!

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