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I have decided that it is time to throw my hat into the AOR and BT ring.

I do not travel and try not to use consumer products, so my AOR is going to be limited to cash and potential for BTs. However, I included the TigerDirect offer b/c the holiday season is quickly approaching and I know that I will need to buy some presents (also, CardOffers would only give $75). I am sure that some of the bonuses listed below will have to be cashed out as gift cards. Oh well, at least I tried.

I will also be applying for a few checking/brokerage accounts at the same time since I think they do a hard pull. Even if they don't, if not now, when?

Relevant information:
Age:24
Income: 60,000
Credit Score: A few months ago it was in the 770 range. I refinanced over the summer, so I don't really care anymore. I am not going to be checking and updating it religiously. I will probably check it in a few weeks just to see where it ended up.

I included the relevant information about each offer in parentheses. If you have a better deal or I missed something, please let me know!


  • Current cards for CLI (2)
    Chase Cash Plus Rewards (limit 10,000)
    CrapitalOne (limit 5,500)

  • Personal (16)
    Am_Ex
    Blue ($40 CardOffers,0% purchase for 15mo)
    IN: NYC ($40 CardOffers,0% for 6mo, no BT fee with offer)
    BofA
    WorldPoints Platinum Plus MasterCard ($75)
    Money Return Visa Platinum Plus ($30 CardOffers,0% for 6mo, no BT fee)
    Chase
    Sony Card ($100, 0% for 12 mo, 3% <= $75)
    CashPlus MC 1-888-787-0329 with the 94F code ($100, 0% for 12 mo, 3% <= $75)
    Chevy Chase Bank (local bank with my checking account)
    Platinum Visa ("Generous Credit Line", 0% for 12 mo, 3% <= $75)
    Citi
    AT&T Universal Reward ($100, 0% for 12 mo, no fee with offer)
    Professional Card with ThankYou Network ($40 CardOffers, $100, 0% for 9 mo, no fee with offer)
    Diamond Preferred Card (F1K7, 0% for 6 mo, 2 purchases/month to extend 0%, 3% <= $75)
    Discover
    Platinum Clear Card ($40 CardOffers,0% for 12mo, no BT fee with application)
    HSBC
    Direct Rewards MasterCard (0% for 12 mo,3% <= $75)
    GM Flexible Earnings($35, CardOffers, 0% for 12 mo,3% <= $75)
    PenFed
    Visa Platinum Variable (No Cash Advance Fee, No Balance Transfer Fee)
    PNC
    Platinum Rewards MasterCard($50, 0% for 12mo, no BT fees)
    Pulaski
    Pulaski Bank Gold Visa ($40 CardOffers,0% for 6mo, no fee with offer)

  • Business (7)
    Advanta
    Advanta Platinum Rewards BusinessCard MasterCard ($50 CardOffers,0% for 16mo, 3% <=$50)
    Am_Ex
    Platinum Business Credit Card ($75 CardOffers)
    Business Gold Rewards Card($100,$150 from TigerDirect)
    Citi
    CitiBusiness Card with ThankYou Network ($100, $10 CardOffers, 0% for 12mo,no fee with offer)
    CitiBusiness PremierPass ($150, $10 CardOffers, 0% for 12mo,no fee with offer)
    Discover
    Business Card ($45 CardOffers, 0% purchase for 12mo)
    PNC
    Platinum Business Rewards MasterCard($50, 0% for 12mo, no BT fees)

  • Other (I prefer no DD requirements, for simplicity)(6)
    BofA Checking ($125)
    Fidelity Brokerage ($100, fund $10,000.)
    NetBank Checking ($75, fund $500 for 1 month)
    NetBank Money Market ($75, fund $1000 for 1 month)
    ShareBuilder ($20 Ebates, $50 after 1 trade. fund $20)
    Citi Checking (100, fund 1500 for 60 days. There is potential for another 100 for DD or paying 2 bills a month for 6 months. Call in code: MGCH)



Update:
11/1 - Updated details for Discover Platinum Clear Card. Updated Chase personal cards.
11/2 - Update Citi information

Approved for the following:

AMEX Blue 10,000
AMEX IN: NYC 10,000
AMEX Platinum Business Credit Card 3700
AMEX Business Gold Rewards Card (TigerDirect) no spending limit
Chase Sony Card 4000
Chase CashPlus Rewards Visa CLI - from 10,000 to 15,000
Citi Professional Card with ThankYou Network 4000
Citi Diamond Preferred Card 3600
CitiBusiness Card with ThankYou Network 4000
CitiBusiness PremierPass 4000
HSBC GM Flexible Earnings 700
PNC Platinum Rewards MasterCard 5000, then CLI to 10,000
PNC Platinum Business Rewards 7500
Advanta Platinum Rewards BusinessCard MasterCard 10,000
PenFed Visa Platinum Variable 25,000
Discover Platinum Clear Card 12,000
Discover Business Card 5,000
BofA WorldPoints Platinum Plus MasterCard 6600
BofA Money Return Visa Platinum Plus 5000
Pulaski Bank Gold Visa 8,000
Capital One CLI from 5500 to 5800 (woohoo!!)


138,400 in new credit; 153,900 total. I passed 150K!

Denials:
Chevy Chase
Chase CashPlus MC
Citi AT&T Universal Reward
HSBC Direct Rewards Platinum


BT (99,000):
Advanta - 8900/10,000 directly into checking.
Chase Sony 16,000/18,000 BT check.
Pulaski 7,000/8000 BT check, washed through BofA
Discover 10,500/12,000 BT check
BofA - 8500/9600 after reallocation, directly into checking.
Citi Premier Pass 6000/7000 after reallocation from CitiBusiness
AMEX 19,000/21,600 after reallocation
PNC 8900/1000 BT check
PNC Business 7000/7500 washed through Discover
Discover Biz - 4400/5000 purchase check
Citi Professional - 2800 BT check


Bonus received/verified ($1830):
400 CardOffers; received
100 from AMEX Business Gold Rewards; received
50 from PNC Platinum Rewards MasterCard; received
25 from Ebates/sharebuilder (includes $5 Ebates sign up bonus) ; received
20 from Citi Credit Protector; received
100 from fidelity; received
50 from sharebuilder; received
15,000 TY points from citi PremierPass; received
10,000 TY points from citi business; received
3000 TY points and $5 from Google/Citi promo
75 from BofA WorldPoints Platinum Plus; received
50 from PNC biz; received
10,000 TY points from citi professional; received
100 statement credit from Chase Sony; received
150 from netbank accounts; received
50 from credit protector retention
50 gift card from AMEX biz gold; received
100 from citi checking; received
125 from BOA checking/savings; received

BT fees ($125):
Advanta $50
Chase $75

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I'd apply for bank/brokerage accounts a week after app o rama, to make sure all CC issuers have got a chance to pull your credit report (some pull same day, some wait a few days before pulling the report).
Your score does not matter much when opening bank accounts, but if CC issuer sees several additional pulls done by banks it may be bad.

Do you get $100 cash from AT&T Universal rewards? If it is, please tell me what's the offer code.
if it's a GC then it's better to apply for Premier Pass Elite and get $150 GC, then convert to basic and get a refund of annual fee.

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Good point about the bank/brokerage accounts, I will keep that in mind.

The AT&T Universal rewards is a giftcard, so you are right that the Premier Pass Elite would be better. However, I remember some threads where people could only get 1 "core" citi card, but more "store/branded" cards. I didn't want to get denied from the Premier Pass Elite and pass up the, probably easier, AT&T Universal rewards. Something to think about though.

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apply for both AT&T & PP, worst case you get a decline
I thought the limit was 2 "core", 2 cobranded and 2 business

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I found two more cards worth applying for:
Business & Personal versions
PNC Bank: Platinum (Business) Rewards MasterCard. $50 statement credit, 0% for 12mo, no BT fees, and no annual fee.

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therivler1 said:Good point about the bank/brokerage accounts, I will keep that in mind.

The AT&T Universal rewards is a giftcard, so you are right that the Premier Pass Elite would be better. However, I remember some threads where people could only get 1 "core" citi card, but more "store/branded" cards. I didn't want to get denied from the Premier Pass Elite and pass up the, probably easier, AT&T Universal rewards. Something to think about though.


I applied for both the AT&T and the PP Elite and got accepted by both. Just apply for everything. Apply for the Citi Professional card too.

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fotomaniak said:apply for both AT&T & PP, worst case you get a decline
I thought the limit was 2 "core", 2 cobranded and 2 business


Is PP considered co-branded?

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djspray said:fotomaniak said:apply for both AT&T & PP, worst case you get a decline
I thought the limit was 2 "core", 2 cobranded and 2 business

Is PP considered co-branded?

No.

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I am planning my AOR in a month or so and paying off my balances on all my cards.

- Does anyone know when credit card issuers report to the credit bureau my new $0 balance?
- Does it change from one credit issuer to another?

I am sure it has been discussed on the forum but I could not find the thread. Please point me to the right thread if you have it bookmarked. Thanks!!

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Hindustani said:I am planning my AOR in a month or so and paying off my balances on all my cards.

- Does anyone know when credit card issuers report to the credit bureau my new $0 balance?
- Does it change from one credit issuer to another?

I am sure it has been discussed on the forum but I could not find the thread. Please point me to the right thread if you have it bookmarked. Thanks!!


It's been asked and answered in other threads, but it depends on the issuer. For me, Cap1 and Citi report when the statement closes but AMEX always reports around the 20th of each month. It all depends on the issuer. The easiest way to check is to get a credit report and see when each item was last updated. Recently Cap1 updated my info mid-cycle after a modest credit limit increase. Short answer: IT DEPENDS...

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Snyder81 said:Hindustani said:I am planning my AOR in a month or so and paying off my balances on all my cards.

- Does anyone know when credit card issuers report to the credit bureau my new $0 balance?
- Does it change from one credit issuer to another?

I am sure it has been discussed on the forum but I could not find the thread. Please point me to the right thread if you have it bookmarked. Thanks!!


It's been asked and answered in other threads, but it depends on the issuer. For me, Cap1 and Citi report when the statement closes but AMEX always reports around the 20th of each month. It all depends on the issuer. The easiest way to check is to get a credit report and see when each item was last updated. Recently Cap1 updated my info mid-cycle after a modest credit limit increase. Short answer: IT DEPENDS...


Thanks. I guess I would have to call the card card issuers and ask them directly. I checked my latest credit report, for all accounts the last time reported is Sep 2006. It does not give an exact date when the update was posted per account.

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Hindustani said:I am planning my AOR in a month or so and paying off my balances on all my cards.

- Does anyone know when credit card issuers report to the credit bureau my new $0 balance?
- Does it change from one credit issuer to another?

I am sure it has been discussed on the forum but I could not find the thread. Please point me to the right thread if you have it bookmarked. Thanks!!


Ive been keeping track by pulling daily and its usually a couple days after statement cuts. Exp is usually the fastest to update.

To OP:
Instead of the Freedom card, why not try for the CashPlus (http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.php?catid=52&threadid=524032). $100 statement credit after 1 purchase. Also, my friend got 15 months 0% purchases and bt, with a fee of 3% capped at $75.

Platinum Clear Card ($40 CardOffers,0% purchase (and BT but no max fee) for 12mo)

There are a few Discover cards, under issuer Morgan Stanley at co.com, that has no fees for the bt including the Gas and Miles card I believe. Unless yours was a typo, that is way better than a no max on the bt fee.

GoodLuck.

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alleni said:
To OP:
Instead of the Freedom card, why not try for the CashPlus (http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.php?catid=52&threadid=524032). $100 statement credit after 1 purchase. Also, my friend got 15 months 0% purchases and bt, with a fee of 3% capped at $75.

Platinum Clear Card ($40 CardOffers,0% purchase (and BT but no max fee) for 12mo)


There are a few Discover cards, under issuer Morgan Stanley at co.com, that has no fees for the bt including the Gas and Miles card I believe. Unless yours was a typo, that is way better than a no max on the bt fee.

I already have the CashPlus card. I have the MC, do you think I could also get the Visa?

I was on cardOffers looking at the cards, and I think every Discover had no BT max fee. Maybe my eyes were glossing over and I missed a few.

Here are the terms for the miles card It says "CASH ADVANCE TRANSACTION FEE: 3% for each cash advance, with a minimum of $5 and no maximum." There is no seperate section for BT transaction fee, so I assumed the no max applied to BT as well. I didn't read the entire T&C word for word, so I might have missed it mentioned elsewhere.

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AH!

The CashPlus is different from the CashPlus Rewards. I always figured I has the CashPlus Rewards; I need to verify which one I have and apply for the other.

Thanks alleni!

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under the terms for the Discover® Platinum Clear Card:
INTRODUCTORY/SPECIAL APR OFFERS:
If you make a balance transfer with this application, there is no balance transfer transaction fee.

about the chase cash.. there are some posters that stated they got both the visa and mc versions.

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It looks like a lot of the discover cards waive the BT fee if made with the application.

My problem is that I do not have anywhere for it to go yet. My only idea is to put down the my debit card number that goes to my checking account. If it goes through, great. If not, it will take a few days for them to straighten it out, and then I can say, Oops, I put the wrong number in. I would then give them one of my new accounts. I guess its worth a shot. The worst that would happen is that they would say no.

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I made some updates and am getting ready to apply for everything.

If anyone is wondering, I think the Citi Professional is considered a personal card. On the site, it talks about having one card for your personal and business needs. Also, it looks like the other Citi business cards all have "CitiBusiness" in the name.

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Approved for the following:

AMEX Blue 10,000
Chase Sony Card 4000
Citi Professional Card with ThankYou Network 4000
HSBC GM Flexible Earnings 700
PNC Platinum Rewards MasterCard 5000
Advanta Platinum Rewards BusinessCard MasterCard ????

No instant denials, and everything else was deferred.

I had errors on the 2 business AMEX apps. I'll wait a little and then call to see if it went through. Pulaski also wants a paystub.

Thats it for now. I will update more as I hear more.

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I got approved on the 2 business AMEX cards that had an error on submitting.

Here is a the site to check your application status. Thanks to whywhq in the "Receive $150 TigerDirect gift card and $100 after your first purchase. AMEX gold reward business card" thread.

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