I’ve been lurking here for awhile reading and absorbing information for my next AOR. This will be my second AOR (first full). I did a mini August 2006 and a couple cards later. I am hoping those more experienced can help me with some of the finer points. Also I am unsure of some of the issuer limits. If I excluded anything just let me know. ![]()
Goals:
Maximize 0% money -> HYS interest
Increase CL’s for future AOR’s
Bonuses directly from issuers and indirectly through Card Selection
Info:
HHI: $80K – 100K (salary + other income) --> ended up putting $90K
Age: Early 30’s
Sole Proprietor
TrueCredit FAKO scores 9/9/07: TU 776 / Exp 758 / Eq 753
Rent $975/month
Current Credit Cards:
Personal (most stats from TrueCredit report)
Card/Open Date/Limit/Balance
Chase Freedom / Jan-07 / $3,500.00 / $1,200.00
Discover CashBack Bonus / Nov-06 / $8,500.00 / $2,965.00
HSBC GM Card / Aug-06 / $2,500.00 / $0.00
Citi PremierPass / Aug-06 / $7,500.00 / $0.00 <- limit not reported
Chase Platinum / Aug-06 / $14,000.00 / $4,860.00
Chase SonyCard / May-02 / $2,300.00 / $314.00
Macys / Jun-96 / $1,500.00 / $0.00
BofA WorldPoints Platinum Plus Visa / Mar-96 / $5,600.00 / $0.00
I have some closed accounts that I don’t know if they are worth including. Made sure personal BT cards from last round had balance below 35% and reported to CR.
Business
Advanta Platinum Business / Aug-06 / $5,000.00 / $2,950.00
CapitalOne / Feb-03 / $3,600.00 / $0.00
CitiBusiness / Mar-03 / $21,700.00 / $0.00
As you can see, I have barely tapped into using business cards. ![]()
AOR candidates
Category codes: BT=BT offer / P=Purchase offer / CA=Cash Adv. Offer
Order not determined yet, but I have put business and no BT fee cards first.
Card Name / Issuer / Category / BT Terms / BT Fee / Annual Fee / Bonus / Notes / Purch. Req.
Business
National City Visa Business / Nat City / BT/P / 0%/6 months / None / No
Juniper Business Card (Bank Atlantic) / Barclay / BT 0%/15 months / 3%/$75 max. / No
Citi Business Card with TYP / Citi / BT/P / 0%/12 months / 3%/$50 max. / No / 15000 points / Already have regular Citi Biz
Chase GM Business Mastercard / Chase / BT/P / 0%/12 months / 3%/$75 max. / No / CS $30
Chase Platinum Visa® Business Card / Chase / BT/P / 0%/12 months / 3%/$75 max. / No / CS $30
Discover® Business Miles Card / Discover / BT/P / 0%/10-2008 / 3%/$75 max. / No / CS $40
Removed
Discover® Business Card / Discover / BT/P / 0%/10-2008 / 3%/$75 max. / No / CS $40
MasterCard® BusinessCard / Fifth Third / BT/P / 0%/12 months / None / No
M&T Bank Visa® Business Platinum Rewards Card / M&T / BT/P / 0%/6 months / None / No
Chase Business Cash Rewards Card / Chase / BT/P / 0%/6 months / 3%/$75 max. / No / CS $30
Chase Business Rebate Card / Chase / BT/P / 0%/6 months / 3%/$75 max. / No / CS $30
Personal
Bank of America® Platinum Plus® MasterCard® / BofA / BT/CA/P / 0%/12 months / None / No
Citi Professional Cash Card / Citi / BT / 0%/12 months / 3%/$50 max. / No / CS $25 / Not true biz card
Lifespring Health Visa / Nat City / BT / 0%/12 months / None / No
NEA WorldPoints™ Platinum Plus® Visa® Card / BofA / BT/CA / 0%/12 months / 2%/$30 max. / No
National Park Foundation Platinum Visa / Barclay / BT / 0%/12 months / 3%/$50 max. / No / Backpack / / first purchase or balance transfer
Washington Mutual Platinum MasterCard / WaMu / BT / 0%/12 months / 3%/$75 max. / No
The RBS Platinum™ MasterCard / RBS / BT/P / 0%/11th cycle / 3%/$60 max./during app / No
Principal Bank "Low Rate" / InfiBank / BT/P / 0%/12 months / 3%/$75 max. / No
Amex Blue / AMEX / P / 0%/15 months / N/A / No
Removed
Millenium Bank Rewards Advantage Platinum Edition Visa Card / First Bankcard / BT/P / 0%/12 months / 3%/$75 max. / No / / more than one?
Millenium Bank Platinum Edition Visa Card / First Bankcard / BT/P / 0%/12 months / 3%/$75 max. / No / / more than one?
State Farm Bank Good Neighbor Visa® Credit Card / State Farm / BT / 0%/9 months / None / No
Lasalle Bank Platinum / First USA / BT/P / 0%/12 months / 3%/$75 max. / No
Vermont Teddy Bear / Chase / BT/P / 0%/12 months / 3%/$75 max. / No / Free Vermont Teddy Bear
Chase Free Cash RewardsSM Visa® Card / Chase / BT/P / 0%/12 months / 3%/$75 max. / No / CS $20
Bank of America Rewards™ American Express® Card / BofA / BT / 0%/12 months / 3%/$75 max. / No
AT&T Universal Rewards Card / Citi / BT / 0%/12 months / None / No / CS $25
US Bank Baylor Visa Platinum Card / US Bank / BT/P / 0%/12 months / None / 1st 12 cycles / No
National City Visa / Nat City / BT/P / 0%/6 months / None / No
Miles Card from Discover® / Discover / BT/P / 0%/10-2008 / 3%/$75 max. / No / CS $40
Citi® Platinum Select® Card / Citi / BT / 0%/12 months / None / No / CS $25
With the above candidates I am unsure if I should get more or less per issuer.
Millenium (First Bankcard) - More than one? I have 2 listed above
Advanta – already have a card
Cap 1 – Unsure if I can have another or would want one if I could.
Discover – Venturion’s Biz AOR says personal & biz are underwritten together if a Sole Prop.
Chase – From what I have read they seem liberal, but I don’t want to push it too far.
BofA - Unsure of this one too.
HYS accounts:
Currently using AmTrust
Plan to open a GMAC account after apps. Read they hard inquiry.
Notes:
- Still researching BT to cash methods for each issuer before executing the AOR. Much of this is in 2 threads at FWF dedicated to this.
- If there is an annual fee or no BT maximum then I discard it as a candidate. I also discarded BT offers 6 months or less, but if anyone suggests one that I makes sense for my goals I may include it.
- Keeping my mind open to methods to convert purchase offers to cash (i.e. broker accounts).
- More non-BT cards to balance utilization?
- Utilization?: Personal: 89% highs/49% overall; Business: No limits
Results from 9/24 AOR
Business
National City Visa Business -> Deferred -> Denied
Juniper Business Card (Bank Atlantic) -> Deferred
Citi Business Card with TYP -> Deferred
Chase GM Business Mastercard -> Deferred -> $12000
Chase Platinum Visa® Business Card -> Deferred -> $10000
Discover® Business Miles Card -> Deferred
Personal
Bank of America® Platinum Plus® MasterCard® -> $3600
Citi Professional Cash Card -> $6000
Lifespring Health Visa -> Deferred -> $12500
NEA WorldPoints™ Platinum Plus® Visa® Card -> Deferred
National Park Foundation Platinum Visa -> $7500
Washington Mutual Platinum MasterCard -> Denied
The RBS Platinum™ MasterCard -> Deferred/$9500 BT with app -> $12000/$95000 BT hit CitiBusiness account on 10/2
Principal Bank "Low Rate" -> Deferred -> $15000
AMEX Blue -> $4200


