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My good friend recently bought a 30k+ sqft building that was in need of some major TLC.  As demo for renovation began a single escalator was found completely walled-in on two different levels.  Because of the choppy layout and non-symmetrical floor plans it was hidden fairly well.  Makes sense as the building was a department store at one time.

The escalator is from the 60's and looks like it has been well preserved for the last 30-40 years.  It is very well made and has awesome retro flair, all curved aluminium fenders and diamond plate texture on the stairs.  It would clean up real nice.

Now that it has been uncovered, it needs to be removed as it's not part of the renovation plans.

Questions for the FWF real estate community:

  • How would you go about removing it? 
  • Does an escalator this old have value? 
  • Have you ever had to remove one?  What would you budget for removal?
  • Are there companies that buy these?  Or is it scrap?

We are internally debating -- some of us think it has value and can be reused and others think it's going to cost $5k+ to have it removed.

Help & thoughts?

Thanks.

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i have nothing useful to contribute but green for including a bunch of pics

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It likely doesn't have necessary safety switches that newer ones have. I doubt it would be able to be used unless it was just the cosmetic pieces that were retrofit into a newer escalator.

Also green for the pics.

Not sure an old escalator is in their wheel house, but you can try contacting Antique Archeology, which is featured on History Channel's show: American Pickers (starring Mike Wolfe and Frank Fritz, the primary "pickers" [of junk] on that show):
http://www.antiquearchaeology.com/got_stuff.php

While they may not be interested in the escalator, they may be able to advise whether it has any value and if so, how to sell it.  BTW, since you posted pics in the OP, you nay want to send them a link to this thread.

Its about time we got a good vintage escalator salvage thread.

jerosen said:   Its about time we got a good vintage escalator salvage thread.
  Jerosen, we can go back to debating the ACA's impact on self employed making over $47k a year if you would like 

That's a beautiful escalator! Sorry if I'm being pedantic, but those stair risers have a "machine turned finish" rather than diamond plate

Highly doubt that it's got any usefulness. Can't imagine how hard it is to maintain.

I would be happy if I didnt find any bodies in there

jerosen said:   Its about time we got a good vintage escalator salvage thread.
  The last few escalator threads went downhill immediately, so hopefully this one will turn out better.

Do a search on Escalator Salvage. There are a few companies out there that seem to buy and remove old ones.

But does it turn on?

The nice thing about escalators is they are never broken, they are just temporarily stairs. We apologize for the convenience.

Contact the local or national Elevator Mechanics Union. I'm sure they'll impart some knowledge.

SpeedingLunatic said:   The nice thing about escalators is they are never broken, they are just temporarily stairs. We apologize for the convenience.
  If you're going to quote a comedy legend at least include the source!

Make the Escalator Great Again? 

CowbellMaster said:   
SpeedingLunatic said:   The nice thing about escalators is they are never broken, they are just temporarily stairs. We apologize for the convenience.
  If you're going to quote a comedy legend at least include the source!

  Pretty sure he came up with that

Maybe I will escalate this to the moderators

Glitch99 said:   But does it turn on?
  It's disconnected.  Assuming that occurred when it was sealed in.

Where is the other one?
Sell it to Hollywood!

SpeedingLunatic said:   The nice thing about escalators is they are never broken, they are just temporarily stairs. We apologize for the convenience.
  
Very funny.  Repairs for broken escalators can take months (or years for the Washington Metro stations).  During that time, nobody can use the "temporary stairs' because they are in pieces. 

 

Stubtify said:   It likely doesn't have necessary safety switches that newer ones have. I doubt it would be able to be used unless it was just the cosmetic pieces that were retrofit into a newer escalator.

Also green for the pics.

  Last time I was at Macy's Herald Square they still had wooden escalators, so I'm sure they can be retrofit.

cowboyBill said:   
jerosen said:   Its about time we got a good vintage escalator salvage thread.
  The last few escalator threads went downhill immediately, so hopefully this one will turn out better.

  
I'm inclined to believe this one is heading up.

Contact local architectural salvage companies. Eg: http://provenancecompanies.com/materials/

SpeedingLunatic said:   The nice thing about escalators is they are never broken, they are just temporarily stairs. We apologize for the convenience.
  
You stole that from Mitch

SpeedingLunatic said:   The nice thing about escalators is they are never broken, they are just temporarily stairs. We apologize for the convenience.
  Mitch Hedberg, if you hadn't done it I would have.

I'd put it on Craigslist.  Do the exchange at a police station to be on the safe side.

I worked in large industrial plant, couple of ideas.

- Large metal recycling place will come and remove it for you. They should be able to come out and give you an estimate and may even pay some $ for it.

- auction house that sell used crown vic, etc.. sometime also handle miso large machines.

Interesting find! I have appreciated the off-the-wall (off-the-floor?) topic, jokes, and your illustrative photos.

Is there only one escalator? Was the other one removed, do you think, or did they only have an up one and not a down one? (I've been in a few stores with only an up one.)

What is the make of the escalator - is the company still in business? They might have an interest in obtaining it, or be able to point you to a specialist buyer.

It sounds like the kind of thing that could run the spectrum from costing you a lot of money for its removal by a local, generalist company to netting you a good bit of money if you can find a buyer who values it.

As you are doing with this thread, it's probably worth it to research this a bit further and try to find the latter.

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I did a quick search and found--

the contact form for Otis, "the world's largest manufacturer and maintainer of people-moving products, including elevators, escalators and moving walkways":
http://www.otisworldwide.com/e1-contact.html 

an escalator parts company that claims to offer parts for many brands:
http://www.escalatorparts.com/Contact.aspx 

Elevatorpedia's list of elevator and escalator companies:
http://elevation.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_elevator_and_escalator_c... 

Looks like you can cross Wyoming off your list from the get-go:
"The State of Wyoming Has 2 Escalators"
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/07/the-state-of-wyoming-has-2-escalators/277891/ 

As mentioned by a previous poster, you could contact Hollywood studios that construct film sets from various periods.
These seem to be some legit sites, and there must be many more out there (I didn't check into these, am just copying and pasting a few):
http://universal.filmmakersdestination.com/home/sound-stages-bac... 
http://www.hollywoodcenter.com/ 
http://studiofacilities.warnerbros.com/stages-sets/sound-stages/ 

this is in the UK, but they might have some thoughts about possible buyers:
LEIA:  the trade association and advisory body for the lift and escalator industry
http://www.leia.co.uk/ 

some eBay listings of Otis escalator/elevator parts
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/otis-elevator

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Good luck, and let us know what you end up doing with it!

Could be really valuable in Mexico in the coming years...

EntertheDeals said:   
SpeedingLunatic said:   The nice thing about escalators is they are never broken, they are just temporarily stairs. We apologize for the convenience.
  Mitch Hedberg, if you hadn't done it I would have.

  
I'm happy to say that I knew this as well...I even read it in Hedberg's voice believe it or not.  Thank you SiriusXM Comedy Central channel.


Does it go down ... or up?

Clean it up, polish, paint etc. and leave it as stationary stairs and incorporate into the renovation.  Pretty cool.

The Chinese will pay top dollars for it if it's not an accident-prone model.

robby69 said:   Clean it up, polish, paint etc. and leave it as stationary stairs and incorporate into the renovation.  Pretty cool.
  I really agree with this.

I have to think the costs of removal (for scrap) would be ugly and then you'd have an awkward space and a need to create a new staircase, etc.

People appreciate vintage accents and I'd think it would add to the charm and character of the space, depending on the intended use.

Just clean them up really nice and after renovation, through a nice plaque on the wall nearby talking about the original department store with a picture, etc.

what state are you in? in CA, you are required to hire an elevator sub contractor (certified) to remove or demolish elevators and escalators. organized crime has nothing on the elevator cartel. probably why the escalator was not removed and left in place.

I'm curious, what are your friends going to do with the building?

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