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ECS (Elite Group) Desktop PC LIVA X2 95-794-NB3031 Celeron N3050 (1.60 GHz) 2 GB DDR3L 32 GB eMMC SSD Intel HD Graphics Windows 10 Home


Celeron N3050 (1.60 GHz - 2.25GHz )
2 GB DDR3L 32 GB eMMC SSD
Windows 10 Home
Intel HD Graphics
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ECS (Elite Group) Desktop PC LIVA X 95-779-NA5044 Celeron N2808 (1.58 GHz - 2.1ghz) 2 GB DDR3L 32 GB eMMC Intel HD Graphics Windows 10 Home

Celeron N2808 (1.58 GHz - 2.1ghz)
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Windows 10 Home
Intel HD Graphics

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ECS (Elite Group) Desktop Computer LIVA Core Intel Core M 5Y10C (M Cache, up to 2.00 GHz) 4 GB DDR3L 120 GB SSD Intel HD Graphics 5300 Windows 10 Home


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The Core M version shows as $399.99 after $30 rebate. That's the only one I'd consider, as the other two are way too slow, and $399.99 just seems way too expensive for something like this, even now...

What do people use these for?

Same here?

What do people use these for?
 

Raspberry Pi type things, only with the windows tax?

Id rather have an Atom than a Celeron these days.

Little PCs like this usually end up as kodi boxes, home theater PCs etc.

Don't see the rebate offer on Newegg. Did it expires already.

digitalalchemysales said:   Id rather have an Atom than a Celeron these days.
 

These days, they may be  almost the same thing.  "Celeron" is just a marketing name for Intel for a budget CPU.  Today's Celerons, if you look closely, are derived from the old Atom CPU architecture.  A few years ago, Intel made slow versions of the i3 and called them "Celeron" but not anymore, it seems.

The "Atom" name is now used for tablet and phone CPUs, not for desktop/laptop CPUs, but inside the CPU may use the same basic architecture.

So what would be a good plain-jane box to run Linux Mint on? I'd want it to be able to hold 8gig of ram. It wouldn't need an OS (obviously). It wouldn't need a hard drive -- I've got a few laptop hard drives kicking about here, one of them SSD, which I'd use for the OS and any video stuff. I'd want a good video setup of course, be an alternate to my 8.1 wintel puter. Lots of USB inputs, maybe a few HDMI inputs also.

Any ideas?

I'd look for sales on components and build your own. Sometimes you see blowout deals on motherboards, cases, etc. If you aren't in a hurry, you can find pieces over time.

Linux will run on almost anything. Do you care more about CPU performance or power consumption/heat/fan noise? Those are the questions I'd be asking, too.

ahallfatwallett said:   
digitalalchemysales said:   Id rather have an Atom than a Celeron these days.
These days, they may be  almost the same thing.  "Celeron" is just a marketing name for Intel for a budget CPU.  Today's Celerons, if you look closely, are derived from the old Atom CPU architecture.  A few years ago, Intel made slow versions of the i3 and called them "Celeron" but not anymore, it seems.

The "Atom" name is now used for tablet and phone CPUs, not for desktop/laptop CPUs, but inside the CPU may use the same basic architecture.


True...  Celerons today are in the same family but they are actually second rate atoms when you look at power requirements and performance.  Today x5-8300 atom will give you about 40% more performance with less power use.

Many people tend to look at Celeron equipped NUC like PCs as a step up from the PC sticks running atom CPUs... but in many ways they are a step down.  You gain a bit of flexibility in storage and memory options/expansion but you lose a good deal of processing power.   

 

Slickone said:   What do people use these for?
Anything where you want similar power consumption/performance to a compute stick (2W-4W idle), but want more storage (msata/USB3). I wouldn't bother with the versions that have the eMMC drive though. For $15 less, you can get one w/o an eMMC but with 4GB of ram instead of 2GB of ram. A used 128gb msata flash drive is only ~$30, so for $15 more you get 2x the ram and 4x the disk space. Or go with a 256GB msata drive for ~$50+.

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digitalalchemysales said:   Id rather have an Atom than a Celeron these days.

Little PCs like this usually end up as kodi boxes, home theater PCs etc.

  Wouldn't a Fire TV work just as well, for less money?

ahallfatwallett said:   The Core M version shows as $399.99 after $30 rebate. That's the only one I'd consider, as the other two are way too slow, and $399.99 just seems way too expensive for something like this, even now...
I agree, for the same price I just bought me one of these little mini i3's w/ a 1TB HD and 4gb ram and it's specs kicks that things butt..........

http://www.frys.com/product/8964223 

 

lyeinyoureye said:   
Slickone said:   What do people use these for?
Anything where you want similar power consumption/performance to a compute stick (2W-4W idle), but want more storage (msata/USB3). I wouldn't bother with the versions that have the eMMC drive though. For $15 less, you can get one w/o an eMMC but with 4GB of ram instead of 2GB of ram. A used 128gb msata flash drive is only ~$30, so for $15 more you get 2x the ram and 4x the disk space. Or go with a 256GB msata drive for ~$50+.

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  I am going to have it always on and use it for NAS.  My DD-WRT router is supposed to do this but I am throwing in the towel after wasting 20+ hours. I am getting the 2gb w/ eMMC since I don't need the extra ram and want the free windows 10.



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