BEWARE: OCI VISA NO LONGER HAS LIFETIME VALIDITY!

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As per the Indian Govt website we are required to have OCI card reissued every time we renew our US passport unless the US passport renewal happens to be between the age of 21 and 49 years: http://mha1.nic.in/pdfs/GuidelinesOCI.pdf 

Also, the Consulate General of India, Washington, DC has officially posted this travel advisory:

https://www.indianembassy.org/pages.php?id=20 

As per the CKGS website (CKGS is the official partner of the Indian Consulate, providing consular services for applying for/reissuing of OCI card, visas, etc) https://www.in.ckgs.us/oci/oci-categories.shtml, as of January 2016, unless you renew your US passport between the age of 21 and 49 years, you MUST get your OCI card reissued.  

PLEASE DO NOT TRAVEL TO INDIA WITHOUT HAVING YOUR EXISTING OCI REISSUED (IF YOU ARE RENEWING YOUR US PASSPORT WHILE YOU ARE OUTSIDE THE AGE RANGE OF 21 TO 49 YEARS)

I would like to add a very important piece of information that will make the case and appeal even stronger:
Please see this policy for tourist visa, as stated on the official website URL below:

"The Validity of an Existing Tourist Visa does not expire if a Visa holder acquires a New passport (if old passport has expired or is damaged), as long as his / her personal particulars (Name has remained the same and nationality of the holder has not changed.) The visa holder can travel carrying their old passport with a valid Indian Tourist Visa along with new passport."

http://ww2.in.ckgs.us/visa/type-of-v...ist-visa.shtml

So, that means the OCI card/visa holders are being penalized for opting for a premium choice visa for which we paid 3 times more than the tourist visa fees. Not to mention, so much for being of the Indian origin, having the so called status of "Overseas Citizens of India" while we are being treated worse than those who would only have a 10 year tourist visa and a lot of them are not even of the Indian origin.

All NRIs are feeling betrayed by the Indian government for giving the so called lifetime validity by charging almost $300 and making us go through the headache-filled application process, and now we have to reapply if we want to travel to India on my renewed US passport!

Case and point: My children and I have our OCI visa issued only 8 years ago, and yet all of us are being forced to reapply all over again (despite having lifetime validity endorsed on our OCI card and visa in the passport) just because we are only renewing our US passports and that too with no changes in our names. We too should be allowed to have the same luxury as a tourist visa holder has, meaning, as OCI visa/card holders we too should be allowed to travel carrying their old passport with the U visa sticker on it, original OCI card, and with new passport - just like 10 year tourist visa holders are allowed.

My point is that the new policy for OCI visa/card holders is illogical, discriminatory, inconsistent, counter-productive and therefore unnecessary. 

Jaydeep

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Agree about headache-filled application process

Did they drop the fee or make the renewal ez?

So much for Modi being NRI friendly Darn bureaucrats

IIRC, this has always been the case. That's why I haven't applied for OCI for my minor daughter. Also for age 50 and over, its is a renewal only the first time, not every time the passport is issued.

the government should refund the oci prices people have paid.. rip off.. it should be a official ban on a corrupt country

Any change in passport or if a new passport is acquired it needs to be endorsed. This is not new, it's to tie your current passport to the OCI card. The OCI is valid for life but endorsement is something we shouldn't oppose to.

Still have my PIO which is good till 2028 which they should honor hopefully.

ashwin321 said:   IIRC, this has always been the case. That's why I haven't applied for OCI for my minor daughter. Also for age 50 and over, its is a renewal only the first time, not every time the passport is issued.
  
 Can someone figure out the best age to apply for ROI on OCI?? How does passport renewal timing affect this? 

Why not do a card like US GC?? Typical indian bureaucracy

 

sistlad said:   Any change in passport or if a new passport is acquired it needs to be endorsed. This is not new, it's to tie your current passport to the OCI card. The OCI is valid for life but endorsement is something we shouldn't oppose to.
  
fee?

OlDog69 said:   Still have my PIO which is good till 2028 which they should honor hopefully.
  http://www.cgihouston.org/page/display/96/19
OCI has replaced PIO - you will need to work with consulate to get an OCI instead

sistlad said:   Any change in passport or if a new passport is acquired it needs to be endorsed. This is not new, it's to tie your current passport to the OCI card. The OCI is valid for life but endorsement is something we shouldn't oppose to.
  Then they should not charge any fees. Just endorse the OCI on the new passport as well as long as you have the OCI card with you. It's a pain to travel to India.  

Luckily my son went through India, without new OCI. Seems most of the immigration officers doesn't know the new changes and laws. They came with PIO card, now OCI and so many changes in OCI. No one knows what will be the next requirement.Indian government frequently changes the laws on PIO/OCI and has no directions on how to handle. They could have kept simple 10 years visa. My trip/attempts for renewal of visa/pio/visa is ever increasing!

needhelpplease said:   Agree about headache-filled application process

Did they drop the fee or make the renewal ez?

 The renewal fee is only $45 per person, but the application process and the amount of paperwork to be submitted just to get the existing OCI card renewed is worse than what it used to be (and it is the same as if we are applying for a new OCI card).

user9876 said:   Luckily my son went through India, without new OCI. Seems most of the immigration officers doesn't know the new changes and laws. They came with PIO card, now OCI and so many changes in OCI. No one knows what will be the next requirement.Indian government frequently changes the laws on PIO/OCI and has no directions on how to handle. They could have kept simple 10 years visa. My trip/attempts for renewal of visa/pio/visa is ever increasing!
  When did you son travel to India and which international airport in India did he get his immigration procedure done? Did he carry his old passport with the U visa sticker, OCI card and the new passport without the U visa sticker?

For PIO Card holders If this helps. This deadlines are rolling deadline to encourage people to change. now extended upto 31st Dec 2016..

http://www.cgisf.org/notice/display/172 

nilaychampion said:   For PIO Card holders If this helps. This deadlines are rolling deadline to encourage people to change. now extended upto 31st Dec 2016..

http://www.cgisf.org/notice/display/172

  No such consideration for OCI card holders! Shame on the Indian government!

When I converted PIO card to OCI, there was some fee. Good there are no fees now.

love4money said:   
user9876 said:   Luckily my son went through India, without new OCI. Seems most of the immigration officers doesn't know the new changes and laws. They came with PIO card, now OCI and so many changes in OCI. No one knows what will be the next requirement.Indian government frequently changes the laws on PIO/OCI and has no directions on how to handle. They could have kept simple 10 years visa. My trip/attempts for renewal of visa/pio/visa is ever increasing!
  When did you son travel to India and which international airport in India did he get his immigration procedure done? Did he carry his old passport with the U visa sticker, OCI card and the new passport without the U visa sticker?

  My son took all passports  including one with U sticker/visa and OCI. One time the mentioned if you carry all passports it is fine. Now the rules has been changed

user9876 said:   
love4money said:   
user9876 said:   Luckily my son went through India, without new OCI. Seems most of the immigration officers doesn't know the new changes and laws. They came with PIO card, now OCI and so many changes in OCI. No one knows what will be the next requirement.Indian government frequently changes the laws on PIO/OCI and has no directions on how to handle. They could have kept simple 10 years visa. My trip/attempts for renewal of visa/pio/visa is ever increasing!
  When did you son travel to India and which international airport in India did he get his immigration procedure done? Did he carry his old passport with the U visa sticker, OCI card and the new passport without the U visa sticker?

  My son took all passports  including one with U sticker/visa and OCI. One time the mentioned if you carry all passports it is fine. Now the rules has been changed

 
Which month and year did your son travel with all his passports and original OCI card? I bet it was not recently, because the policy against OCI card/visa's lifetime validity has been imposed as of January 2016.
 

http://www.immihelp.com/forum/showthread.php/205396-OCI-Card-Vis... 

And there is also a Change.org petition started against this new rule that hinders numerous NRIs who have paid for lifetime validity visa that now is meaningless!

Mods: Please remove this link if it is against the policy:

https://www.change.org/p/the-government-of-india-indian-embassies-oci-card-visa-validity-is-being-canceled-upon-us-passport-renewal 

 

These idiots never ceased to amaze me with burden of paperwork and halfassed instructions. It may be easier to get a new OCI card instead of renewing one. Just read the list of physical documents that needs to be sent. http://www.in.ckgs.us/oci/oci-categories/oci-reissue-new-passpor...

delhel said:   These idiots never ceased to amaze me with burden of paperwork and halfassed instructions. It may be easier to get a new OCI card instead of renewing one. Just read the list of physical documents that needs to be sent. http://www.in.ckgs.us/oci/oci-categories/oci-reissue-new-passpor...
  Same amount of paperwork and same process for getting a new OCI, so there is no winning!

Has anyone personally experienced travelling to India after January 2016 with a renewed US passport (where passport was renewed either before the age of 21 or after the age of 49) and an existing OCI card, along with the old passport that has the actual OCI visa sticker on it?

I am trying to learn if the OCI card reissue requirement (that has been imposed as of January 2016) is only on paper and not implemented at the immigration check points (where the immigration officers check passports and visas upon arrival to the international airports in India).

~~Just last month I have applied for transfer of OCI visa from my son’s old to new passport at FRRO Mumbai. He just turned 18. It’s a simple process and not at all complicated. Following was what we did:

1. Applied online under OCI Miscellaneous Services. It’s a very simple form requiring minimal basic details.
2. Uploaded recent photograph.
3. Uploaded copy of OCI visa page in passport.
4. Uploaded copy of 1st page of old passport.
5. Uploaded copy of OCI card.
6. Printed-out the online application and sent it to FRRO Mumbai along with i) copy of above dox (self attested), ii) one photograph and iii) a banker’s check for Rs.1400. ($25).

Although it was not mentioned anywhere in the instructions, upon contacting the FRRO by phone, they advised me to go to Mumbai with original dox for verification. I did not argue as I was going to Mumbai anyway and also it never pays arguing with these people.

According to them it would take two to two and a half months to receive the new OCI. The time taken may be different in the US but I think the requirements would be same.

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buytech said:   ~~Just last month I have applied for transfer of OCI visa from my son’s old to new passport at FRRO Mumbai. He just turned 18. It’s a simple process and not at all complicated. Following was what we did:

1. Applied online under OCI Miscellaneous Services. It’s a very simple form requiring minimal basic details.
2. Uploaded recent photograph.
3. Uploaded copy of OCI visa page in passport.
4. Uploaded copy of 1st page of old passport.
5. Uploaded copy of OCI card.
6. Printed-out the online application and sent it to FRRO Mumbai along with i) copy of above dox (self attested), ii) one photograph and iii) a banker’s check for Rs.1400. ($25).

Although it was not mentioned anywhere in the instructions, upon contacting the FRRO by phone, they advised me to go to Mumbai with original dox for verification. I did not argue as I was going to Mumbai anyway and also it never pays arguing with these people.

According to them it would take two to two and a half months to receive the new OCI. The time taken may be different in the US but I think the requirements would be same.

 
We are talking about dealing with CKGS here in the USA. It is a headache!

I don't think this is real.... if you search internet, these rumors have been going around since 2012.

http://www.immihelp.com/forum/showthread.php/104303-Recent-exper...

Maybe the outsourcing company is trying to drum up business for getting OCI renewals for minors.

HumDoHamaraDo said:   I don't think this is real.... if you search internet, these rumors have been going around since 2012.

http://www.immihelp.com/forum/showthread.php/104303-Recent-exper... 

Maybe the outsourcing company is trying to drum up business for getting OCI renewals for minors.

  
It is real, I am afraid:

https://www.indianembassy.org/pages.php?id=20 

http://mha1.nic.in/pdfs/GuidelinesOCI.pdf 

And this one is on the website of consulate general of India in New Zealand:

http://www.hicomind.org.nz/hcinz/consular-services/oci-misc.-ser...

However, there no evidence of it being implemented at the immigration check points in India!

Also, as per the consulate general of India in NY, this policy has been "in place" since 2006!

What a mess!

My wife traveled to India from late April 2016 to early May 2016 and she took her old passport with U visa and new passpor along with OCI booklett. We did not renew OCI with new passport and she did not have any problem entering at AMD. She is under 49 years.



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